Originally posted by Scribbleso much of it is hearsay from people with a vested interest.
I'll try to remember to make a compilation of footage from within the CHOP tomorrow. Most of it is coming out as personal videos shared to Twitter and the like. The rape / robbery stuff comes from the Seattle police chief saying that rapes and robberies have gone up in the immediate area and that cops can't get to them, thankfully there aren't any, um, "unedited videos of rape".
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
so much of it is hearsay from people with a vested interest.
Victim shaming?
That's a new low.
You double-down so far to oppose what you inappropriately deem as a "right wing" position that you've horseshoed all the way to the right and are now shitting all over liberals who think you shouldn't victim shame.
Sometimes, "sticking to your absolute positions of opposition" end up making you look like a giant *sshole like this. Your opposition may not necessarily be in one particular quadrant of the political compass. Facts are usually independent of political compass positions.
Originally posted by RobtardI'm not you'll like the sources as quite a few of the videos are hosted by known white supremacists such as Andy Ngo and Ian Miles Cheong, but:
Thank you for the time 👆Because extraordinary claims require proof.
Seattle Police Chief says response times have tripled in the area, including rapes & robberies:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1271291958296604675
Mob rule / 'justice' stemming from an altercation (not great footage imo, but it shows that without an actual justice system, vigilante justice is all that exists):
https://twitter.com/i/status/1272471455045783557
The video where they got the name 'CHOP': "Does anybody here know what happened to the people who did not get on board with the French Revolution? CHOP!"
https://twitter.com/i/status/1272731672065105922
The 'leader' of CHOP handing out guns to random people:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1272616532875583489
Raz assaults a man peacefully streaming:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1270878964870000641
Raz claims him and his men are the police of the area now, and threatens to blow a man's brains out. The man's crime was spraypainting.
Another spokesperson of CHOP on the purpose of the community: "Respond to the demands of the people, or prepare to be met by any means necessary"
https://twitter.com/i/status/1273406943298646016
And, for a bit of levity: A CHOP local wears orange peel as a face mask and kicks the person filming her:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1273028934037364736
There are plenty of other videos from 'within the area', but as I couldn't find anything to 100% confirm they were from CHOP, I decided to leave them out.
Bump because I took time compiling that stuff and I don't want Robert to miss it.
Also, CHOP update:
https://time.com/5856573/shooting-chop-chaz-police-seattle/
One Dead, Another Critically Injured in Shooting at Seattle's CHOP Area Formed Out of Police Protests
A 19-year-old man has died and another man is in critical condition after an early Saturday morning shooting in Seattle’s protest area known as the Capitol Hill Organized Protest (CHOP), according to police.
The suspected shooter fled the scene and has not been identified, the police said. No potential motive was given.
Police said in their statement that officers “attempted to locate a shooting victim but were met by a violent crowd that prevented officers safe access to the victims.”
Originally posted by Scribble
Bump because I took time compiling that stuff and I don't want Robert to miss it.Also, CHOP update:
https://time.com/5856573/shooting-chop-chaz-police-seattle/
[b]One Dead, Another Critically Injured in Shooting at Seattle's CHOP Area Formed Out of Police Protests
A 19-year-old man has died and another man is in critical condition after an early Saturday morning shooting in Seattle’s protest area known as the Capitol Hill Organized Protest (CHOP), according to police.
The suspected shooter fled the scene and has not been identified, the police said. No potential motive was given.
Police said in their statement that officers “attempted to locate a shooting victim but were met by a violent crowd that prevented officers safe access to the victims.” [/B]
That wasn't intentional homicide.
That was just unplanned early mortal retirement.
CHAZ leader enraged Seattle EMT's wouldn't enter autonomous zone following a shooting
I laughed and laughed.
Then I laughed some more.
Originally posted by Surtur
Like this is a legit hearty laugh. A big chuckle. If I was Santa muh belly would be rumbling!
Laugh some more. Dude gets robbed when making a video about the zone trying to talk up how good it is.
Originally posted by Surtur
But it's a peaceful place, they got a garden where they are growing orchids and oregano!
I'm sure there little poop garden will feed one person for a day.........nope.
I don't know whats worse, the people that have established their little safe zone or the leaders that allow them to keep it going.
Originally posted by Scribble
Sorry if this has already been mentioned.But, what the ****?
[b]Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone: You Are Now Leaving the U.S.A.
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‘Welcome to Free Capitol Hill’ — Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone forms around emptied East Precinct
The first night in the so-called Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone that has formed in the wake of police giving up the week-long blockade of the East Precinct was rainy and peaceful and full of speeches from activists, agitators, poets, and socialist city council members.
“I guess whatever the **** we’re doing is effective,” one organizer identified as Magik said over a megaphone early in the night as police were still clearing the area. “They are going to move up. They are going to get everybody out of here and we are free to move through these streets and protest and march.”
“Yesterday we were on 11th and Pine. Today we have victory on 12th and Pine. They tried to stop us!,” another exclaimed.
The night brought tense moments but compared to the previous week of blast balls and clouds of gas and pepper spray, Pike/Pine was calm if not quiet — the county sheriff’s helicopter stayed circling overhead until midnight providing observations to SPD command on the ground and often drowning out speeches below. The only major reported conflict came when a TV news crew for the local Fox affiliate was temporarily chased from the scene and took up refuge in the nearby fire station.
The surprise pullback of SPD riot police and National Guard troops came together quickly Monday afternoon after a day of hastily clearing out equipment, moving trucks, and reports of a “mobile shredding unit” at the building at 12th and Pine that is home to the East Precinct headquarters as well as department office facilities. “The decision has been made to allow demonstrators to march past the East Precinct later today,” an announcement sent to department staff about the decision to close the building read. “Additional measures are currently underway to enhance our ongoing efforts to insure the security of our East Precinct and provide for the safety of all our officers.”
/source
The NY Times, unsurprisingly, put out a piece lauding this example of anarcho-communist insurgency: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/11/us/seattle-autonomous-zone.html
However, within this self-proclaimed autonomous territory, things are not the utopia they're being presented as. A suspected gang leader (amusingly named Raz) has become the de-facto warlord of the area:
https://twitter.com/heckyessica/status/1270881740547076097
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1270913390249013248
In his own words: "I’m not a Terrorist Warlord. Quit spreading that false narrative. The world has NEVER been ready for a strong black man. We have been peaceful and nothing else. If I die don’t let it be in vain."
"We have been peaceful and nothing else," says the man caught on camera being violent. What a shitshow. This is how these things will always turn out.
So what the **** is going on? Is this a terrifying glimpse into the future of America, or is it just a blip on the radar that will go away soon? Do you agree with their beliefs or tactics, or do you disagree with them? Should the military be mobilised to restore order, or should they be left to their own devices? [/B]
Did you know a member of the Italian Mafia preached all the time about the oppression of Italian Americans, and lobbied to get them recognized as a protected class? Until he was whacked by the mob, because they didn't like all the attention he was bringing on the mob.
I bet these jokers are doing the same thing. Activism in front of the camera, breaking your legs off camera.