Demon's Souls

Started by NewGuy013 pages

I want to agree... that quality dip in the last 1/3rd though...

These games are kind of hilarious if you imagine the "Violent games are corrupting the children" crowd looking at them.

They'd probably have a stroke looking at the gore.

Originally posted by Kazenji
^ And it is, Further proof Cdtm has shit taste.
Yep.

Bloodborne is game of the god damn gen.

The colors are overly-saturated, the red-blue light dynamic is trite, and the new enemy-designs look generic. Nevertheless I had to get it.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
DS2's combat was supposedly copied directly from the original as well, and look how that turned out. I'm not shitting on this or anything, it could turn out to be great, but there are definitely reasons to be skeptical at this point.
Dark Souls 2 has better combat than 1 so no, it isn't.

DS>BB>DS3>DS2>DeS

Bloodborne is the most fun to run through once, but repeated play-throughs are a choir since there are very few ways to play the game.

Dark Souls is probably the best.

chore*

Originally posted by NemeBro
Dark Souls 2 has better combat than 1 so no, it isn't.

No way. DS1 has way better combat than 2.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
No way. DS1 has way better combat than 2.
No, it has better overall gameplay, primarily due to better boss and level design. The combat itself in 2 is better by virtue of its greater variety alone.

Originally posted by NemeBro
No, it has better overall gameplay, primarily due to better boss and level design. The combat itself in 2 is better by virtue of its greater variety alone.
Care to go into detail?

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Care to go into detail?

I think he means in terms of available (and viable) weapons, armors, consumables and spells.

The 25% equip burden and the poise system really limited viable armor piece combinations.

New trailer released today.

YouTube video

Dante's Inferno isn't getting a remaster.

I never played it, but everyone compared it to Demons Souls all the time.

No, it was more along the lines of GOW, DMC, Ninja Gaiden, and so on.

Originally posted by NemeBro
No, it has better overall gameplay, primarily due to better boss and level design. The combat itself in 2 is better by virtue of its greater variety alone.

What are you defining as combat, exactly? Yes, Dark Souls 2 had a ton of build variety, and all sorts of permutations not only existed, but were able to be made viable. That's not in dispute.

But the janky movement? Walling off i-frames behind the ADP stat? What about the clumsy hitboxes that consistently allow enemies to hit you from a meter away? And why are you counting the boss/enemy design as something separate from the combat? I'd argue even the level design is relevant. The lack of enemy variety, plus the tendency to pack rooms with obnoxious numbers of them to artificially increase the difficulty, doesn't that also factor in to your combat experience?

Dark Souls II has a special place in my heart, and I hate to hate on it since it's already grossly underappreciated, but better combat than DS1? I can't get behind that. Maybe if we restrict it to PVP.

If no one has played the new version, why wouldn't they make the combat better than any souls type of game in existence? You'd think that graphics quality wouldn't be the only thing reworked, or at least I'm hoping it isn't. Must have this game. It's one of the reasons that I'm getting a PS5. Well that and GOW.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
What are you defining as combat, exactly? Yes, Dark Souls 2 had a ton of build variety, and all sorts of permutations not only existed, but were able to be made viable. That's not in dispute.
That's pretty much largely all I consider when talking about combat. That Dark Souls 2 is a worse gameplay experience has little to do with the combat and more to do with the problems I'm sure you've heard people have with it, be they the railroaded level design or the uninspired boss design.

Acknowledging that the PVP is better is just an admission of it having better combat IMHO. When it's just two players fighting each other and you're not forced to deal with the inferior enemy design and level design the combat alone has to carry the gameplay experience and I think it largely does compared to 1, at least when you don't get lag-stabbed by the enemy player.

Originally posted by cdtm
Dark Souls 1 is the best.
I've never played Bloodborne but I have to agree here, DS1 is probably the best.

SOUL:

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SOULLESS:

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