Originally posted by Darth Thor
Not against a guy whose been hit by the full force of a star.Even someone like you who denies that admit that he was at least hit by the full heat of the star. So what exactly is heat vision supposed to do?
Why didn't you read the exchange before quoting me out of context? Do you know what we were talking about?
ShadowFyre stated Thor's cloak lightning will damage Nam. I gave a feat of Nam resisting HV as a rebuttal. I explained what the HV is capable of to prove its power.
You quote me and start talking about Thor withstanding heat of stars. What does that have to do with anything we are talking about?
You must be drunk.
Originally posted by h1a8
Why didn't you read the exchange before quoting me out of context? Do you know what we were talking about?ShadowFyre stated Thor's cloak lightning will damage Nam. I gave a feat of Nam resisting HV as a rebuttal. I explained what the HV is capable of to prove its power.
You quote me and start talking about Thor withstanding heat of stars. What does that have to do with anything we are talking about?You must be drunk.
Wow butthurt much?
And still my point stands. Resisting a Star > Resisting Ibeam slicing HV.
IOW Thor is more durable. Physically more powerful. And massively more versatile.
Dont forget Thors lightning smacked Thanos to the floor. Shall we start listing everything hes resisted?
Thor solos.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Wow butthurt much?And still my point stands. Resisting a Star > Resisting Ibeam slicing HV.
IOW Thor is more durable. Physically more powerful. And massively more versatile.
Dont forget Thors lightning smacked Thanos to the floor. Shall we start listing everything hes resisted?
Thor solos.
So you want to troll?
Reported!
The argument wasn't about Thor being able to resist HV (he can like a champ). It was about Nam being able to resist cloak lightning.
You talking about Thor resisting a star has absolutely nothing to do with Nam resisting cloak lightning.
If you going to quote me then discuss how cloak lightning is somehow greater than HV. Don't troll me talking about stuff no one here is arguing. Yes heat from that star >>>>hv. But it's irrelevant here.
Originally posted by h1a8
So you want to troll?
Reported!
The argument wasn't about Thor being able to resist HV (he can like a champ). It was about Nam being able to resist cloak lightning.
You talking about Thor resisting a star has absolutely nothing to do with Nam resisting cloak lightning.If you going to quote me then discuss how cloak lightning is somehow greater than HV. Don't troll me talking about stuff no one here is arguing. Yes heat from that star >>>>hv. But it's irrelevant here.
You actually reported me for debating Lmao
Youre acting as if Nam completely no sold the HV. He didnt.
Thors Lightning has destroyed an entire landscape in seconds (slightly more impressive than cutting through an IBeam.)
Like I said, Thor solos.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
You actually reported me for debating LmaoYoure acting as if Nam completely no sold the HV. He didnt.
Thors Lightning has destroyed an entire landscape in seconds (slightly more impressive than cutting through an IBeam.)
Like I said, Thor solos.
So you agree to trolling me when you starting talking about Thor withstanding a star which has nothing to do with my post that you quoted me? After the fact that I corrected you and explained to you what my post was talking about? You still troll and ignore my correction to you.
And we are talking about the cloak lightning, not the landscape lightning or the "who are you the God of again" lightning. Cloak lightning has no feats but destroying fodder. The HV did absolutely no damage to Nam. Yes Nam felt it but no damage. Also the HV has better feat than the cloak lightning.
Originally posted by h1a8
So you agree to trolling me when you starting talking about Thor withstanding a star which has nothing to do with my post that you quoted me? After the fact that I corrected you and explained to you what my post was talking about? You still troll and ignore my correction to you.And we are talking about the cloak lightning, not the landscape lightning or the "who are you the God of again" lightning. Cloak lightning has no feats but destroying fodder. The HV did absolutely no damage to Nam. Yes Nam felt it but no damage. Also the HV has better feat than the cloak lightning.
I havent agreed to anything. But pretty funny you accusing anyone of trolling. I actually used to slightly defend you, in that despite your constant trolling you wouldnt get emotional. Clearly those days are long gone.
I didnt realise he has different types of lightning named after whatever he was saying or doing at the time.
Seems to me its all his lightning. But you are naming them different kinds of lightning as to ignore his higher end feats.
The lightning cloak being a thing we discuss I get, because its all over him and in all directions, so useful against speedsters (though hardly needed over here given hes the only one who can fly).
But theres literally no evidence his lightning is less effective in that form because it isnt really a different form, its just down to him having gained more control over his lightning as per Ragnarok.
Originally posted by Darth ThorBut isn't it trolling to purposely quote someone out of context. Clearly you are debating correctly now. Why mention Thor withstanding a star when that had nothing to do with the discussion? No one ever claimed that HV would do anything to Thor. You obviously made a mistake. That wasn't the trolling part. The trolling came AFTER you were told this and you still repeated the same nonsense.
I havent agreed to anything. But pretty funny you accusing anyone of trolling. I actually used to slightly defend you, in that despite your constant trolling you wouldnt get emotional. Clearly those days are long gone.I didnt realise he has different types of lightning named after whatever he was saying or doing at the time.
Seems to me its all his lightning. But you are naming them different kinds of lightning as to ignore his higher end feats.
The lightning cloak being a thing we discuss I get, because its all over him and in all directions, so useful against speedsters (though hardly needed over here given hes the only one who can fly).
But theres literally no evidence his lightning is less effective in that form because it isnt really a different form, its just down to him having gained more control over his lightning as per Ragnarok.
Yes star heat >>>> hv. Yes hv will do nothing to Thor. No one argued otherwise.
With that said,
So you are claiming that all of Thor's lightning has exactly the same power and energy? I hope you are not. That would be trolling. Clearly the massive lightning Thor use in some scenes have more destructive power and energy in it than the much smaller bolts in other scenes. The cloak lightning bolts is very small in size than say Thor's biggest and most powerful blasts. There is a vast difference in size and feats.
Do you think the cloak lightning could slice an Ibeam in a 1 sec blast?
I didn't know I need to clear this up but lightning and heat vision are not the same and we already saw Clark whas phased but not injured by cyborgs little bitty zapper. And that was a Clark that is magnitudes stronger than the version that faced Namek.
Soooo, anyway H1 the cloak lightning is not meant for injuring. It will act as a natural buffer for their speed advantage, it will shock them enough to stop or slow them down and then Stormbrealer 1 shots.
I'm assuming Cap and Tony vs. 1 and Thor vs. the other
Originally posted by ShadowFyreProve that the cloak lightning will stun Faora or Nam enough (or by any amount) to slow her down.
I didn't know I need to clear this up but lightning and heat vision are not the same and we already saw Clark whas phased but not injured by cyborgs little bitty zapper. And that was a Clark that is magnitudes stronger than the version that faced Namek.Soooo, anyway H1 the cloak lightning is not meant for injuring. It will act as a natural buffer for their speed advantage, it will shock them enough to stop or slow them down and then Stormbrealer 1 shots.
I'm assuming Cap and Tony vs. 1 and Thor vs. the other
Originally posted by h1a8
So you are claiming that all of Thor's lightning has exactly the same power and energy? I hope you are not. That would be trolling. Clearly the massive lightning Thor use in some scenes have more destructive power and energy in it than the much smaller bolts in other scenes. The cloak lightning bolts is very small in size than say Thor's biggest and most powerful blasts. There is a vast difference in size and feats.Do you think the cloak lightning could slice an Ibeam in a 1 sec blast?
What exactly is stopping him using his most powerful lightning attacks on these two?
Whats stopping Mjolnir or Stormbreaker hitting them?
Why is there speed so difficult to counter?
You seem to be arguing that Thor NEEDS to use his Lightning Cloak, and then asking for feats for that specific lightning effect. But that's a mute point against these two.
Originally posted by Darth ThorThey aren't going to stand there and wait for him to summon his most powerful lightning and stay there to get hit. Mjolnir can possibly hit Nam but it would do anything to him. Faora would easily avoid it.
What exactly is stopping him using his most powerful lightning attacks on these two?Whats stopping Mjolnir or Stormbreaker hitting them?
Why is there speed so difficult to counter?
You seem to be arguing that Thor NEEDS to use his Lightning Cloak, and then asking for feats for that specific lightning effect. But that's a mute point against these two.
After Cap gets one shot both would dog walk Thor. Faora alone would stomp Thor using her speed.
Well, a more powerful Kryptonians by the name of Superman was stunned by a featless Cyborgs tazer thing. Did it hurt him? No, but it stopped him long enough for Thor to hit his ass with Stormbrealer and that's all he needs.
Any direct physical hit by Thor is enough to damage the mask.
Any direct hit by Stormbreaker and they die.
An Jotunheim or Sokovia Strike will also ruin the mask and heavily damage them.
They couldn't even beat a Superman in his first fight ever in his life (mainly due to Faora not adapted yet)
Thor is more skilled, has actual experience fighting superhuman goes, has experience with superhuman abilities, has a ranged attack that they don't.
Oh, and Iron Man and Worthy Cap are here, all of who are more skilled and teamwork.
Originally posted by h1a8
They aren't going to stand there and wait for him to summon his most powerful lightning and stay there to get hit.
They will get hit at some point. And he doesn't need his most powerful shot just to effect them.
Originally posted by h1a8
Mjolnir can possibly hit Nam but it would do anything to him.
It hurts Hulk, it would hurt him.
Originally posted by h1a8
Faora would easily avoid it.
She never displayed that level of speed.
Originally posted by h1a8
After Cap gets one shot both would dog walk Thor. Faora alone would stomp Thor using her speed.
Nah Thor can just keep to the skies and demolish both. Even if he gets hit, he can take a pounding.
Originally posted by Darth ThorNam can possibly get hit but Not Faora. It will be two against 1. Either is superior to Thanos and Thanos would stomp this version of Thor.
They will get hit at some point. And he doesn't need his most powerful shot just to effect them.It hurts Hulk, it would hurt him.
She never displayed that level of speed.
Nah Thor can just keep to the skies and demolish both. Even if he gets hit, he can take a pounding.
I doubt it would hurt Nam enough to slow him down. These characters can take blows that launch them higher than skyscrapers without missing a beat.
Even if it hurts Nam like you think then Nam is still in the fight and Faora is still there. Thor simply can't deal with both, let alone Faora.
Mjolnir nor Stormvreaker were never was shown to be thrown with speed faster than Faora can move and react to.
Originally posted by h1a8
Nam can possibly get hit but Not Faora. It will be two against 1. Either is superior to Thanos and Thanos would stomp this version of Thor.
This is all baseless. You need to make your argument properly.
Originally posted by h1a8
I doubt it would hurt Nam enough to slow him down. These characters can take blows that launch them higher than skyscrapers without missing a beat.
Thor has much greater durability feats. He also took a blow sending him flying very high into the air in TDW.
And he's been smashed through stone buildings in AOU.
And he's taken a pounding from Hulk who can stagger a being the size of Surtur.
Originally posted by h1a8
Even if it hurts Nam like you think then Nam is still in the fight and Faora is still there. Thor simply can't deal with both, let alone Faora.
Again baseless. You haven't even addressed that Thor is the only one who can fly here and the only one with ranged attacks.
Originally posted by h1a8
Mjolnir nor Stormvreaker were never was shown to be thrown with speed faster than Faora can move and react to.
Originally posted by KingD19
Mjolnir has gone from orbit to street level in seconds.