Originally posted by Adam_PoE
[B]I am not convinced that is entirely incorrect. Americans are more misogynistic than they are racist, and Harris is both a woman and black. There is a lot of enthusiasm around Harris right now, but enthusiasm does not win elections, votes do.
I said all along that running Harris instead of Biden was a mistake. Turns out, I was right. [/B][/QUOTE]
I don't think Biden would have won this time either.
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I don't think Biden would have won this time either.
The United States is more misogynistic than it is racist.
For context, the white men who control government granted black men the right to vote five years after fighting a war to not consider them persons.
It would be another 50 years before those white men would extend that right to women of their own race, and an additional 45 years to extend that right to black women.
If American would not elect a white woman, Hillary Clinton, it was not going to elect a black woman, Kamala Harris.
Her candidacy was dead on arrival, which is why I raged against the calls for Biden to withdraw from the race and endorse Harris, because I knew this would be the result.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
[B]I am not convinced that is entirely incorrect. Americans are more misogynistic than they are racist, and Harris is both a woman and black. There is a lot of enthusiasm around Harris right now, but enthusiasm does not win elections, votes do.
I said all along that running Harris instead of Biden was a mistake. Turns out, I was right. [/B][/QUOTE]
Not sure if Biden would have won either, he inherited a complete disaster in 2021 and the first two years of his admin were fixing that.
He should have not run and let the Dems had a normal primary.
Maybe Biden should be calling state election officials and asking them to "find votes". 🙂
Originally posted by Robtard
Not sure if Biden would have won either, he inherited a complete disaster in 2021 and the first two years of his admin were fixing that.He should have not run and let the Dems had a normal primary.
Maybe Biden should be calling state election officials and asking them to "find votes". 🙂
I think Biden would have won, and the Trump campaign thought he would too. That is why they pounded the drum about him being a weak candidate who should withdraw from the race.
If I truly thought my opponent was weak and easily defeated, I would keep my mouth shut, so they do not replace him with someone stronger who can beat me. It is reverse-psychology, and the corporate media and the fearful delegates played right into it.
The two exit poll indicators were the economy and immigration and Biden got hammered on those despite reality. So I don't really agree, but maybe.
The economy is doing fine, stock market is too, jobs are up as are wages. Yet the spin for four years was that it's not. Trump's not going to actually mass deport immigrants, he'll make a show up it, they'll be nice photo ops, but in the end illegal immigrants make his wealthy friends wealthier.
What we can expect: The wealthiest are going to get more tax cuts at the expense of the middle class again. National abortion ban will probably happen, more women will die. Obamacare will be overturned, some people will be paying more for their healthcare, or losing it if they have a preexisting condition. Justices Alito and Thomas will be asked to step down so they can be replaced by Christian Nationalist judges. Police violence will rise like it did under his first term, probably higher. Elon Musk will be getting every Gov contract he wants and will be in charge of overseeing himself, so he'll become a trillionaire off our tax dollars, until the egos butt heads and that sours. That's just domestic. Foreign policy side is going to be f*cked too.
Yes, but in Adam's defense, we know Harris lost, while we can only speculate about Biden, maybe his numbers would have skunk further, maybe they would have risen closer to the election. Adam could be correct.
I'm personally putting off luxury item spending for now, and will be moving more of my savings into 6-12 month CDs. I recommend all non-Trumpers think ahead as well.
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
It's funny cos, for as long as the election cycle was, I don't think I heard a single actual policy from either party.So I have no idea what he's actually going to do other than spend 4 years getting revenge on everyone from the last 4 years.
His policies are all outsourced because he believes in nothing but his own gain. His policies are Project 2025. It will be Christofascism.
Originally posted by Robtard
What we can expect: The wealthiest are going to get more tax cuts at the expense of the middle class again. National abortion ban will probably happen, more women will die. Obamacare will be overturned, some people will be paying more for their healthcare, or losing it if they have a preexisting condition. Justices Alito and Thomas will be asked to step down so they can be replaced by Christian Nationalist judges. Police violence will rise like it did under his first term, probably higher. Elon Musk will be getting every Gov contract he wants and will be in charge of overseeing himself, so he'll become a trillionaire off our tax dollars, until the egos butt heads and that sours. That's just domestic. Foreign policy side is going to be f*cked too.
How successful do you think his promises of deportations will be? If you really deport 20-something million people it would destabilize the economy. And, well, that is basically all he cares about is the economy. But of course by the time it comes around, the next administration will get associated with the horrendous economy. And the cycle continues.
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
How successful do you think his promises of deportations will be? If you really deport 20-something million people it would destabilize the economy. And, well, that is basically all he cares about is the economy. But of course by the time it comes around, the next administration will get associated with the horrendous economy. And the cycle continues.
The logistics alone of finding, rounding up and deporting 10-20 million would be a nightmare and cost upwards of half a trillion over 4 years, but he's not concerned about the deficit, he raised it to the roof in his four years. He won't do it because cheaper labor makes people like him and his wealthy friends wealthier. There's also the inescapable fact they migrants do jobs that Americans won't do anymore, they'd rather be on welfare.
He'll just claim he deported 10, 20, 30 million and that the border is shut down and no more migrants are coming in though. The usuals will clap.
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
How successful do you think his promises of deportations will be?
Deporting illegal immigrants was one of his 2016-20 campaign promises. He didn't do it then. If you were being fair you could say he only had 3 years to do it instead of 4 due to Covid.
His numbers for promises kept vs promises broken in his 1st term are 23% vs 53%.
In comparison Biden's are 28% vs 3%
Obama's were 43% vs 23%
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Has anyone seen the movie out about him with Sebastian Stan - The Apprentice. Its actually quite good.Even though a lot of it is based on speculation, it seems pretty realistic as his portrayal/growth is 100% accurate to who he is.
I liked it, Stan did a fantastic job, but I felt they focused on some unimportant things at times. The personality shown completely tracks with what we've seen irl.
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Deporting illegal immigrants was one of his 2016-20 campaign promises. He didn't do it then. If you were being fair you could say he only had 3 years to do it instead of 4 due to Covid.His numbers for promises kept vs promises broken in his 1st term are 23% vs 53%.
In comparison Biden's are 28% vs 3%
Obama's were 43% vs 23%
This time, he does not have to worry about re-election, and the Supreme Court has granted him immunity for anything he wants to do.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
This time, he does not have to worry about re-election, and the Supreme Court has granted him immunity for anything he wants to do.
Him not worrying about reelection makes him less likely to care about keeping campaign promises, not more.
I also think he's not beyond manufacturing some fake "emergency" that requires he remain in office in 2028/9. We'll see how soon into this term talk of repealing the 22nd ammendment begins. Not long, I suspect. I'm sure all the vehement constitutionalists will be livid about it.
I've not been following the U.S. election cycle. But at the same time I don't think it matters that much, because I don't think most people make up their minds at the last moment.
With a continued increase in lootings after tone-deaf policies like Proposition 47, not to mention the unwillingness by Democratic voters to engage in a dialogue with dissidents, it's not difficult to see why some people have grown resentful of the government and its supporters.
As far as Trump being a less qualified candidate than Harris. I think people overestimate the importance of who's the president. Because the president is just a means to expediate certain changes.
Of course, it's easy to be thoughtful in hindsight, but none of this changes the fact that I wanted- and thought Harris would win. And I'd readily admit to the fact that I was wrong in my prediction. Well, not my election, not my responsibility.
Originally posted by jaden_2.0What he tweeted in 2022:
Him not worrying about reelection makes him less likely to care about keeping campaign promises, not more.I also think he's not beyond manufacturing some fake "emergency" that requires he remain in office in 2028/9. We'll see how soon into this term talk of repealing the 22nd ammendment begins. Not long, I suspect. I'm sure all the vehement constitutionalists will be livid about it.
"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution."