Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!I personally prefer 'she/her'. I know I'm a male, but I really do make the effort to present female, and I really do wish I were born a girl. Many of my primary traits are distinctly feminine (although some are also masculine, but everyone is a bit of a mix, y'know).
changing the subject so we can get you and Eon right on the forum as Quincy and I wonder, how do we describe you both pronoun wise?
Originally posted by ScribbleSo is Eon a she too? How do we describe your realionship? Is it gay or lesbian or something else.
I personally prefer 'she/her'. I know I'm a male, but I really do make the effort to present female, and I really do wish I were born a girl. Many of my primary traits are distinctly feminine (although some are also masculine, but everyone is a bit of a mix, y'know).
Originally posted by Scribble
I'm not 'attacking', this isn't a two-way throwing of insults. I'm calling him out.You can search for Bash's initial slurs pretty easily. He got a warning from Bada for them. They're in the General Discussion Thread.
The short is that he kept calling me and Eon "traps" and "drag queens" and the like, terms that are used by anti-trans people to cast question upon the validity of their identities — behaviour just recently displayed by xyz. These are the people you happily associate with; making you complicit.
Not that I'm surprised — you've been complicit in Bash's toxic and volatile behaviour in the past (I won't bring it up here because it constitutes as drama, PM me if you are so inclined).
Didn't look, but I'll take your word for it. I have to ask though, that's nothing worse than your little buddy Surtur has said in regards to trans people and you had no problem with it. Why is it a problem right now?
What did XYZ say now? And kinda strange that you assume I automatically agree with it, when I have no idea what was said.
I like how I'm now anti-trans when I've gone out of my way to defend their rights in threads here about them. Too funny.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!I use female pronouns for Eon, but I think she can be flexible, as can I.
So is Eon a she too? How do we describe your realionship? Is it gay or lesbian or something else.
I mean it's definitely gay, as we're both male. Lesbians are generally sexually attracted to women, not just 'femininity', so many lesbians have no interest in transwomen. I prefer not to use the term 'lesbian' as I think it is distinct.
I just see it as a queer relationship in a general sense.
Originally posted by ScribbleO.K. Do the two of you intend to meet when lockdown is over?
I use female pronouns for Eon, but I think she can be flexible, as can I.I mean it's definitely gay, as we're both male. Lesbians are generally sexually attracted to women, not just 'femininity', so many lesbians have no interest in transwomen. I prefer not to use the term 'lesbian' as I think it is distinct.
I just see it as a queer relationship in a general sense.
Originally posted by RobtardMe and Surtur have argued many times about the trans issue. It's actually how we became acquainted at all — and we still disagree on many points regarding it. However, he's always been kind and courteous about it, and respectful.
Didn't look, but I'll take your word for it. I have to ask though, that's nothing worse than your little buddy Surtur has said in regards to trans people and you had no problem with it. Why is it a problem right now?What did XYZ say now? And kinda strange that you assume I automatically agree with it, when I have no idea what was said.
I like how I'm now anti-trans when I've gone out of my way to defend their rights in threads here about them. Too funny.
On the opposite side of the spectrum is Bash — supposedly pro-trans, but in our conversations he has shown little to no understanding of trans identity, and has repeatedly belittled me about it. I think that shows a very specific disconnect that I cannot respect.
The xyz post:
Originally posted by Blakemore
scribble is male who poses as female. its dumb imo
Did you guys really think he'd change? He's only being transphobic to me now because he's buddies with you guys, and he knows you'll let him get away with it.
Originally posted by Scribble
Me and Surtur have argued many times about the trans issue. It's actually how we became acquainted at all — and we still disagree on many points regarding it. However, he's always been kind and courteous about it, and respectful.On the opposite side of the spectrum is Bash — supposedly pro-trans, but in our conversations he has shown little to no understanding of trans identity, and has repeatedly belittled me about it. I think that shows a very specific disconnect that I cannot respect.
The xyz post:
Did you guys really think he'd change? He's only being transphobic to me now because he's buddies with you guys, and he knows you'll let him get away with it.
Surtur's said similar to worse things about transgender people. He's been called out on his thinly veiled dislike of trans people many times by several people:
The Should we let children transition? A transgender thread.
Surtur has also referred to trans people as "it". That's not a show of affection, that's directly trying to strip a trans person of their identity.
Again, I'm not saying Bash hasn't as I'm taking your word for it here. But why is one person saying something okay because you're frinds and another isn't when they're apparently similar sentiments?
As far as XYZ, yeah, that's a transphobic comment, but it's hardly a devastating. Far worse has been said in here in regards to trans people and you didn't voice up, so does that mean you're transphobic too? No, it does not.
Originally posted by Robtardit's O.K. scribble likes Surt she doesn't like XYZ or Bash.
Surtur's said similar to worse things about transgender people. He's been called out on his thinly veiled dislike of trans people many times by several people:The Should we let children transition? A transgender thread.
Surtur has also referred to trans people as "it". That's not a show of affection, that's directly trying to strip a trans person of their identity.
Again, I'm not saying Bash hasn't as I'm taking your word for it here. But why is one person saying something okay because you're frinds and another isn't when they're apparently similar sentiments?
As far as XYZ, yeah, that's a transphobic comment, but it's hardly a devastating. Far worse has been said in here in regards to trans people and you didn't voice up, so does that mean you're transphobic too? No, it does not.
Originally posted by Quincy
How should I feel about Eon telling me I was weird looking and a drag queen? Or implying/asking if I was one. I assumed Eon wasn't anti-trans and just kind of being a dick.Having said that, I remember a back and forth with Scribble and Bash about Bash giving Scribble shit (I can't remember the context) and Scribble expressing that they were hurt by his words and feeling particularly low. Bash didn't back down and the back and forth continued.
Wait, what was the context of this specific conversation? I don’t have Rob’s memory, so if I offended you it was probably just done jokingly as I’ve never held animosity towards you, whatsoever.
Originally posted by Quincy
How should I feel about Eon telling me I was weird looking and a drag queen? Or implying/asking if I was one. I assumed Eon wasn't anti-trans and just kind of being a dick.Having said that, I remember a back and forth with Scribble and Bash about Bash giving Scribble shit (I can't remember the context) and Scribble expressing that they were hurt by his words and feeling particularly low. Bash didn't back down and the back and forth continued.
WTF? You're a genuinely handsome man, you have a bit** of a young Morrissey in you.
**His looks, not his shit attitudes towards people of color.
Originally posted by RobtardYou seem to be making the same mistake as every other leftist here: the difference is the targeting. Specifically targeting a trans person and demeaning their identity is way worse than having a different opinion on the matter of a very complex and strange topic.
Surtur's said similar to worse things about transgender people. He's been called out on his thinly veiled dislike of trans people many times by several people:The Should we let children transition? A transgender thread.
Surtur has also referred to trans people as "it". That's not a show of affection, that's directly trying to strip a trans person of their identity.
Again, I'm not saying Bash hasn't as I'm taking your word for it here. But why is one person saying something okay because you're frinds and another isn't when they're apparently similar sentiments?
As far as XYZ, yeah, that's a transphobic comment, but it's hardly a devastating. Far worse has been said in here in regards to trans people and you didn't voice up, so does that mean you're transphobic too? No, it does not.
Just looked at that thread, and I mostly agree with Surt on the first page:
Originally posted by SurturDamn right, damn right.
IMO it's child abuse if you allow your child to transition.Or even to put them on hormone blocks before the age of like 16.
But even then, this was 2017. Me and Surt have debated loads since then. I think his opinion on the whole trans topic is actually quite close to mine. I'm very much a heretic when it comes to modern trans ideology.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!I was chill with Bash until he started flipping out on me. I even got shit from MG for not calling out his toxic nonsense earlier, and she was right to criticise me: Bash is a nasty and abusive person with a long history to back up that claim.
it's O.K. scribble likes Surt she doesn't like XYZ or Bash.
Rob knows this. That he still stand by him is astounding.
Originally posted by Eon BlueEon you're a good troll, just curb the personal stuff and you could be a great one.
Wait, what was the context of this specific conversation? I don’t have Rob’s memory, so if I offended you it was probably just done jokingly as I’ve never held animosity towards you, whatsoever.
Originally posted by RobtardAgreed Quincy is a good looking guy... no homo 😉
WTF? You're a genuinely handsome man, you have a bit** of a young Morrissey in you.**His looks, not his shit attitudes towards people of color.
Originally posted by Scribblebig fan of him musically but...
lol @ the idea of Morrissey being racist. More leftist propaganda. Morrissey is a good guy, and a British icon.