Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Literally nothing about her statement has anything to do with that. You just pulled an imagined scenario out of thin air.She was trying to be profound, and say that the Holocaust was caused by inhumanity in general, and not targeted genocide specifically. It was a clumsy, "we all bleed red" metaphor that minimizes the historic persecution of the groups targeted by the Nazis.
Because the truth is that some animals are more equal than others, and generalizing the Holocaust as if it affected everyone equally is reductive and lazy.
I listened to the entire thing, and her followups.
You either have not, have forgotten details, or are being disingenuous.
She absolutely did refer to skin color. She absolutely did claim jews can blend in with a crowd of whites. She called the Holocaust white people targeting white people.
All of this is a natural and logical argument based on exiting theories. None of it was addressed.
And I'm only going to say this once.
Enough with the condescending attitude.
If you think I'm wrong and wish to argue against my points, so be it. I'm not in this to win an argument, and never have been.
If you condescend, slander, or impose my intentions, I will hit the report button.
And I don't care whether you think I'm a troll or not. Report me then. I intend to follow the line from this point forward, and only ask for mutual respect, or to not be engaged.
This goes for everyone here.
Originally posted by cdtm
I listened to the entire thing, and her followups.You either have not, have forgotten details, or are being disingenuous.
She absolutely did refer to skin color. She absolutely did claim jews can blend in with a crowd of whites. She called the Holocaust white people targeting white people.
All of this is a natural and logical argument based on exiting theories. None of it was addressed.
Nazis, the only people whose definition of "whiteness" matters with regard to the Holocaust, do not consider Jews to be white irrespective of how they look. Whoopi Golderberg may not be able to tell a Jew from a gentile, but Nazis sure as shit can. And even that suggestion is antisemetic as ****.
Originally posted by cdtm
And I'm only going to say this once.Enough with the condescending attitude.
If you think I'm wrong and wish to argue against my points, so be it. I'm not in this to win an argument, and never have been.
If you condescend, slander, or impose my intentions, I will hit the report button.
And I don't care whether you think I'm a troll or not. Report me then. I intend to follow the line from this point forward, and only ask for mutual respect, or to not be engaged.
This goes for everyone here.
You, like everyone, get the level of discourse you deserve. If you say something stupid, then people will treat you like you said something stupid. If you say something bigoted, then people will treat you like you said something bigoted. If you want better, do better. Everything you think is not automatically worthy of consideration and respect, because you exist.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Nazis, the only people whose definition of "whiteness" matters with regard to the Holocaust, do not consider Jews to be white irrespective of how they look. Whoopi Golderberg may not be able to tell a Jew from a gentile, but Nazis sure as shit can. And even that suggestion is antisemetic as ****.
I couldn't tell the difference between a Hutu and a Tutsi. But they sure could tell the difference between each other in 1994
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
She was trying to be profound, and say that the Holocaust was caused by inhumanity in general, and not targeted genocide specifically. It was a clumsy, "we all bleed red" metaphor that minimizes the historic persecution of the groups targeted by the Nazis.
Sounds like that looney pastor Jesse Lee Peterson who claims racism doesnt exist, only evil.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
You, like everyone, get the level of discourse you deserve. If you say something stupid, then people will treat you like you said something stupid. If you say something bigoted, then people will treat you like you said something bigoted. If you want better, do better. Everything you think is not automatically worthy of consideration and respect, because you exist.
And what if I'm genuine stupid?
No malice, making a genuine effort to engage, and being condescended to because "offensive."
How do you expect people to even hash things out, if not by exploration? Asking the "why"?
Do you want obedience, or not? Because you can't assume everyone who demands to ask "why" is an enemy or troll, which is exactly what you're doing from my point of view (And this has been political discourse in general society. No real debates or engagement or stress testing idealogy, just attack attack attack )
Was Whoopie acting of malice or ignorance? If ignorance, why does that justify attacking her?
Originally posted by cdtmBecause ignorance warrants criticism.
And what if I'm genuine stupid?No malice, making a genuine effort to engage, and being condescended to because "offensive."
How do you expect people to even hash things out, if not by exploration? Asking the "why"?
Do you want obedience, or not? Because you can't assume everyone who demands to ask "why" is an enemy or troll, which is exactly what you're doing from my point of view (And this has been political discourse in general society. No real debates or engagement or stress testing idealogy, just attack attack attack )
Was Whoopie acting of malice or ignorance? If ignorance, why does that justify attacking her?
You are genuinely stupid.
Originally posted by cdtm
And what if I'm genuine stupid?No malice, making a genuine effort to engage, and being condescended to because "offensive."
How do you expect people to even hash things out, if not by exploration? Asking the "why"?
Do you want obedience, or not? Because you can't assume everyone who demands to ask "why" is an enemy or troll, which is exactly what you're doing from my point of view (And this has been political discourse in general society. No real debates or engagement or stress testing idealogy, just attack attack attack )
Was Whoopie acting of malice or ignorance? If ignorance, why does that justify attacking her?
Then you get what you deserve. Stupidity is a choice.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Hey so I was catching up on some stuff on this board and was reading Klaw's funny incel thread.What the **** is this about?
When Scribble had their last attention seeking meltdown, apparently posted and pm'd people shit, mutilation, necro and kiddie porn. I was lucky to only see a single shit porn pic, was that "tubgirl" from way back.
EonBlue wasn't posting it himself, but was egging Scribble on.
Look around page 800 of this thread, the pics were removed though.