Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!lol
no one was talking about old school Stormfront mate.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
what does first hand experience matter when confronted by post-hoc tourist knowledge. meanwhile the final incarnation of stormfront before it was taken offline was very similar to much of what I read here, masks, coded speaking, and all
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
sorry i have no archive of pre-shutdown stormfront and none is available. i guess that means witness testimony is meaningless. herp, derp, etc.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
holy crap, thank you ddm!https://web.archive.org/web/20110910101330/http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t502927/
this was a couple of years after they started the mask-wearing pretend-civility and certain members were too dumb to play along:
so you're not even reading the quotes you're posting. good job wasting my time
they went "PC" from like 2006 until the shutdown (presumably until then, since I eventually stopped checking their forum). to mask their true speech and appeal to "normies", which was my whole point, which you will no doubt continue to ignore
Originally posted by Bashar TegLook, Bash, yes. I just said you were right in saying that and that my 'anecdotal evidence' thing was just me taking a pop at your general inconsistencies.
so you're not even reading the quotes you're posting. good job wasting my timethey went "PC" to mask their true speech and appeal to "normies", which was my whole point, which you will no doubt continue to ignore
They're hardly PC now, though — my original post shows plenty of incredibly un-PC stuff, and I got them from current threads on the forum. They may not "call a spade a spade" but they'll still call it a 'disease' and other awful shit.
What are we even arguing about here? We both agree that Stormfront tried to make themselves more appealing to normies, I just don't think either incarnation of that hatehole is anything like KMC.
Originally posted by Bashar TegFor sake of brevity, can I just admit I'm confused and you can relay me the point? I assumed you were saying that modern Stormfront use coded language and that is similar to how KMC works, but idgi because all I've seen on modern Stormfront is brazen racism
since you refuse to address the point I made, I guess we're not arguing about anything
Originally posted by Scribble
For sake of brevity, can I just admit I'm confused and you can relay me the point? I assumed you were saying that modern Stormfront use coded language and that is similar to how KMC works, but idgi because all I've seen on modern Stormfront is brazen racism
If I am understanding it correctly, which I might not be, they are saying stormfront started out using more coded language and then got worse and worse until they stopped using coded language.
The implication being that KMC is like Stormfront and is in the "using coded language" phase.
It's insane, but there it is.
Originally posted by SurturThe problem is that dog-whistle rhetoric is a thing, but since everything has become a racist dog-whistle, it muddies the waters and makes it harder to pin-point actual examples of it. Plus sometimes it's actually just hard to tell.
or maybe this is like the racist dog whistles than supposed non-racists just always happen to be hearing
Originally posted by Scribble
For sake of brevity, can I just admit I'm confused and you can relay me the point? I assumed you were saying that modern Stormfront use coded language and that is similar to how KMC works, but idgi because all I've seen on modern Stormfront is brazen racism
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
I witnessed stormtfront before they put on their masks and stopped posting grossly overt racism. afterwards if any of them dropped an n-word or other naked slur, they would be hastily corrected by their peers and the mods would edit or delete. it was one of the inspirations for my "coded speak" thread back in 2006, when I witnessed this change take place.
I don't know how to make it any more clear than I made it the first time
they had their initial overt racism phase, then they went PC/coded speak, and now (post-shutdown) they seem to a hybrid of the two.