Originally posted by DarkSaint85
BM uses energy antimatter blasts a lot more than Pagan though.And Classic Thor is pretty good against energy blasts with Mjolnir.
BM didn't punch Pagan who out-punched Thor? No matter how many panels were shown, Pagan's defeat was one of several of BM's achievements. Kind of like the pyramid lift, and the Navy assist. He took Pagan solo, while an entire powerful team of Avengers were unable to do so.
It shows him doing damage control, and Pagan was part of that damage control. It's like the labors of Hercules. Do we see Hercules from start to end cleaning the stalls? Do we see him defeating the Nemean Lion? We just know that he completed his labors. Pagan was defeated, just like the pyramid was lifted, and the Navy was successfully aided.
Originally posted by Stoic
It shows him doing damage control, and Pagan was part of that damage control. It's like the labors of Hercules. Do we see Hercules from start to end cleaning the stalls? Do we see him defeating the Nemean Lion? We just know that he completed his labors. Pagan was defeated, just like the pyramid was lifted, and the Navy was successfully aided.
We are told he defeated the Nemean Lion, even wearing it's pelt after.
Were we told Pagan was outpunched? Because that is what your thesis is hinging on.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
We are told that Herc cleaned the stables.We are told he defeated the Nemean Lion, even wearing it's pelt after.
Were we told Pagan was outpunched? Because that is what your thesis is hinging on.
Did I say that BM out-punched Pagan, or did I say that Pagan out-punched Thor? Read what I said. BM completed all of those trials, but I guess we should make believe that Pagan wasn't part of those trials, and that he was the only one out of those trials that he didn't complete. He kicked his ass in my book, see it how you want. Free world.
Originally posted by Stoic
Did I say that BM out-punched Pagan, or did I say that Pagan out-punched Thor? Read what I said. BM completed all of those trials, but I guess we should make believe that Pagan wasn't part of those trials, and that he was the only one out of those trials that he didn't complete. He kicked his ass in my book, see it how you want. Free world.
Ah ok, so you're now moving from 'BM defeated Pagan' to 'BM punched Pagan'.
Cool. Agree with you 100%. BM did indeed punch Pagan. But that's it.
Ok, go back to what I wrote and understand that Pagan's defeat was one of several trials that BM overcame. Yeah, and no I'm not posting scans. I have no way of doing that currently. So if you'd like to post all of the trials that he completed, knock yourself out. Either way it won't change my mind on the subject.
The one thing Stoic said correctly in this thread is... you won’t change his mind
In the end it’s an off-panel fight where we don’t know the context what happened before it started, during the fight or how it “ended”. So it’s not really a great example to use. We saw BM punch Pagan, we don’t know if it was a sucker punch, a legit punch during a brawl, etc. It’s basically unusable