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For a bitter taste of Polish populism, just watch the evening news

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/25/polish-populism-evening-news-public-broadcaster-presidential-election?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy

As Poland approaches the climax of a presidential election campaign on which the future of its democracy depends, and Donald Trump gives his fellow populist Andrzej Duda electoral help by receiving him in the White House, come with me on a tour through the magical world of the evening News programme on Polish state television (TVP).

We start on Sunday 14 June. The first item marks the 80th anniversary of the first deportation of Poles to Auschwitz in 1940. This is indeed a moment worthy of the most solemn remembrance. Too many people around the world forget that innocent and sometimes heroic Poles were the first prisoners in Auschwitz. But in the entire news item, lasting more than four minutes, the words ‘Jewish victims’ do not appear once. Instead, the head of the Institute of National Remembrance tells viewers: “That was the purpose of Auschwitz – that there would never be an independent Poland; to murder it.”

Why do you continue to use bad faith actors in news description? The clear narrative there is obvious to anyone looking to read information....... trump is anti-semitic? That's the opposite of his actions throughout his presidency.

Originally posted by snowdragon
Why do you continue to use bad faith actors in news description? The clear narrative there is obvious to anyone looking to read information....... trump is anti-semitic? That's the opposite of his actions throughout his presidency.
it's the papers headline.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
it's the papers headline.

It's obviously click bait oriented garbage, the irony is that Trump does enough to castigate him without trash. Don't use trash, don't clickbait, it's not hard with Trump.

The purpose of that article was to paint him as anti-semitic, it's clear as day. It doesn't match what he has done.

Trump is very pro-Israel, if anything he gets criticised for supporting Israel over Palestine (such as with him relocating the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem)

Trump is the worst literal Hitler ever tbh

Originally posted by Scribble
Trump is very pro-Israel, if anything he gets criticised for supporting Israel over Palestine (such as with him relocating the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem)

Trump is the worst literal Hitler ever tbh

Jerusalem is where the embassy rightly belongs though. Trump did the right thing.

Yes, he's very pro-Israel which is one of the reasons I like him so much. Obama, otoh, seemed to hate Israel and several current day democrats definitely do.

Originally posted by snowdragon
It's obviously click bait oriented garbage, the irony is that Trump does enough to castigate him without trash. Don't use trash, don't clickbait, it's not hard with Trump.

The purpose of that article was to paint him as anti-semitic, it's clear as day. It doesn't match what he has done.

it's actually not mainly about Trump and it's quite a nuanced article imo.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
it's actually not mainly about Trump and it's quite a nuanced article imo.
It was an interesting if highly biased article. I think their point is quite fair, but it bordered on propaganda for the Bilderberg group. I really do think the Guardian has lost all credibility in terms of being the guardians of truth.

But the general stance of antisemitism hidden within European populism is legitimate and something that does need to be recognised and exposed; populists of all shades have been heightening their antisemitism, whether hidden in right-wing rhetoric (such as in the Polish candidate in the article) or paraded out in the open by left-wing parties (such as in the example of the institutionally antisemitic Labour party in the UK, perfectly encapsulated in their previous leader, Jeremy Corbyn).

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
it's actually not mainly about Trump and it's quite a nuanced article imo.

Sure but your posting tends to be thematic so addressing the big bad is the first/easiest thing to do. The point of the article still stands even if you erase Trump, it's that it is anti-sematic. It's just a simple conclusion drawn from your numerous posts and lack of dialogue after said posts.

Originally posted by snowdragon
Sure but your posting tends to be thematic so addressing the big bad is the first/easiest thing to do. The point of the article still stands even if you erase Trump, it's that it is anti-sematic. It's just a simple conclusion drawn from your numerous posts and lack of dialogue after said posts.
I engage in dialogue. I state my opinion then I reply to others. I see little point in replying if the persons post is little more than flame bait and/or really take the debate no further

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I engage in dialogue. I state my opinion then I reply to others. I see little point in replying if the persons post is little more than flame bait and/or really take the debate no further

Ironicaly, while you state that as you position you have not posted anything to direct conversation to your point other then a guardian "news" piece. Bingo/bang on 😉

Originally posted by snowdragon
Ironicaly, while you state that as you position you have not posted anything to direct conversation to your point other then a guardian "news" piece. Bingo/bang on 😉
Bingo! Do I have too? I agree 100% with the articles opinions.