The big one, why Americans and Europeans see things so differently.

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The big one, why Americans and Europeans see things so differently.

The US has the most billionaires in the world – but here's what it doesn't have

https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/2020/jul/02/us-most-billionaires-in-world-inequality?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy

The US has the most billionaires in the world – but here's what it doesn't have
Wealth in the US isn’t trickling down when compared to other countries. Just look at Finland, the happiest country in the world: it only has six billionaires

It’s official: America has the most billionaires in the world, for yet another year. The US increased its share of billionaires by 12% in 2019 according to a report by Wealth-X, which annually takes stock on the world’s mega-rich.

But while US billionaires are waiting to find out whether Kim “I have 14 Freesian [sic] horses” Kardashian West will join their ranks this year, the rest of us have more important questions on our minds, such as: has any of this wealth trickled down yet?

The answer is no. One in eight Americans still live below the poverty line, and 40% are one paycheque away from destitution. In fact, there are a lot of basic services that other similarly wealthy countries provide as a minimum that just aren’t given to Americans.

By comparison, in much of the rest of the developed world, college tuition is either free or affordable. In places like Germany, Poland and Sweden, tuition is even free for citizens. In Norway, college education is also free for international students and in Denmark, students are paid to go to college.

It’s not just Europe: college tuition fees are also a fraction of the price in countries across the world, from Mexico to Australia to New Zealand. In fact, according to an OECD report from 2017, the US has the highest tuition fees of any country in the world.

Paid vacation
In the absence of a national paid leave policy, it is up to companies to provide paid leave to its employees. That means that almost one in four Americans go without a vacation every year. It is worth noting that the US is the only wealthy economy in the world without a paid vacation policy

Paid parental leave and daycare
In countries around the world, parents are entitled to take time off after having a child. Across Europe, paid parental leave is the norm. In New Zealand, paid parental leave lasts 26 weeks. In the UK, parents get 37 weeks of paid leave and can opt to take a further 13 weeks of unpaid leave after that.

Paid leave varies greatly from country to country: in some places, parents receive the equivalent of their full salary while on parental leave; in others, a flat rate is provided that varies from a few hundred dollars a month to more than $1,000, and sometimes the rate changes over time. But most aren’t dependent on their employer (or family wealth) to get by if they have a baby.

Lemme guess, this is yet another "USA sucks!" thread because you can't get over your jealousy of America being so much better than your country.

I don't even have to read your posts above to know that.

"America bad! Europe good! Her derp!"

Meanwhile, in the US, there is no national policy of paid parental leave. The only states with an active parental leave policy are California, New Jersey and Rhode Island. American parents are entitled to 12 weeks’ unpaid leave under the Family Medical Leave Act (although many parents don’t qualify for this).

And when parents go back to work, putting a child in full-time daycare can cost up to tens of thousands a year.

Universal healthcare coverage
Americans live shorter lives than people in other similarly wealthy countries. Meanwhile, the US spends nearly twice as much on healthcare as the average OECD country – but with the lowest life expectancy and highest suicide rates among the 11 nations, it’s not clear where that money is going.

Year after year, while the US continues to spend the most on healthcare in comparison to high-income countries, it continuously ranks last when it comes to measures such as healthcare quality, accessibility and equity.

An inhospitable climate for billionaires
Obviously the US is a place where billionaires can thrive, meanwhile a number of countries manage to get by with just a handful of billionaires. Finland, the happiest country in the world, has just six billionaires. Japan, the country with the second-longest lifespan in the world and the third-highest GDP, has just 26 billionaires. The UK, which is by no means the most egalitarian country in the world, has a paltry 45 billionaires. All three still manage to provide free healthcare.

^Blah, blah, blah, blah, america sucks, blah, blah, blah, blah.

.*yawn*

Basically the US has more for many in common with a third world country, is it any wonder so many are just out for themselves and don't understand collective responsibility.

Seek help for your obsession with a country you don't even live in, pooty.

I get it.... you're green with envy that the US is so much better than your country but this kind of obsession is not healthy.

Triggered, why not engage in debate rather than ad hominems troll?

^triggered by America lol.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
^triggered by America lol.
I have never seen you ever debate anything with this account Fly. I know it is a parody and it is meant to come off retarded. So, I guess good job 👆

^Let me guess, that was a "dur hur" emoji lol.

Trickle-down economics is bunk. Not much else to say...

Originally posted by DarthAloysius
Trickle-down economics is bunk. Not much else to say...
👆
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
^Let me guess, that was a "dur hur" emoji lol.
🙂

Yeah, the inequality in the US is a real problem, you can really see that in the immense squalor the poorest there live. I think the Guardian is obfuscating the scale of the problem in the UK however. It is a deeply unequal, classist society as well with many of the same problems (albeit somewhat left working party that was able to preserve the hard fought for welfare state and labour rights much longer than in the US (they were better in the UK to start with as well). Additionally it had the EU as a positive social influence, it's very worrying to imagine what a Tory government will do towards its citizens if it is free from the (minor) social constraints of the EU, I don't think it will be pretty.

Originally posted by Artol
Yeah, the inequality in the US is a real problem, you can really see that in the immense squalor the poorest there live. I think the Guardian is obfuscating the scale of the problem in the UK however. It is a deeply unequal, classist society as well with many of the same problems (albeit somewhat left working party that was able to preserve the hard fought for welfare state and labour rights much longer than in the US (they were better in the UK to start with as well). Additionally it had the EU as a positive social influence, it's very worrying to imagine what a Tory government will do towards its citizens if it is free from the (minor) social constraints of the EU, I don't think it will be pretty.
The UK as it heads out of Europe and gets in bed with the US if Trump wins with Boris, will decline to these state rapidly. I don't disagree at all with you Artol. Only difference is 50% of the UK are more compassionate which might slow things down.

Originally posted by Artol
Yeah, the inequality in the US is a real problem, you can really see that in the immense squalor the poorest there live. I think the Guardian is obfuscating the scale of the problem in the UK however. It is a deeply unequal, classist society as well with many of the same problems (albeit somewhat left working party that was able to preserve the hard fought for welfare state and labour rights much longer than in the US (they were better in the UK to start with as well). Additionally it had the EU as a positive social influence, it's very worrying to imagine what a Tory government will do towards its citizens if it is free from the (minor) social constraints of the EU, I don't think it will be pretty.
Indeed, the reason I voted Remain was the very thought of a Tory government free to do whatever they liked.

Honestly Whirly, it would be refreshing if you made threads about other nation's problems. You never do that. Why?

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
The US has the most billionaires in the world – but here's what it doesn't have
Wealth in the US isn’t trickling down when compared to other countries. Just look at Finland, the happiest country in the world: it only has six billionaires

Finland has a significantly higher suicide rate compared to other EU countries despite its "happiest country" label.

When the UN crowned Finland the world's happiest nation last month for the second year running, there were still quite a few eyebrows raised. How could this Nordic country, better known for its harsh weather and high suicide rate, be the world's happiest?

https://www.thejakartapost.com/life/2019/04/13/finland-from-suicide-hotspot-to-worlds-happiest-country.html

Also, I can't quote your posts because KMC sucks.

The living form "paycheck to paycheck" thing is real in the US. It is a major problem. The US needs a much better credit system overhaul and a minimum wage adjustment. If the US had an affordable UHC solution, we ended our drug war, and we ended our foreign wars and occupations, you'd see our poor drastically improve, our economy would drastically improve, our happiness would go up, and crime would go way down.

Not having an affordable UHC is the republicans fault. Ending our drug war, our foreign wars, and our foreign land occupations is a corrupt US politician (both dems and republicans) fault.

Anyone offended by Whirly's article is doing this country a disservice and you're not a patriot. You should want to make your country better, not hide the festering faults behind empty pride.