Was Trump paedoed himself?

Started by Old Man Whirly!6 pages

It gets really interesting.

Donald Trump's behavior was shaped by his 'sociopath' father, niece writes in bombshell book

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/07/donald-trump-abuse-father-niece-mary-book?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy

Originally posted by Scribble
Are you going to address the fact that you didn't read the article you posted, and that no sexual abuse is mentioned, making the very title of this thread bunk?

You seem trigged, chill, we moved on days ago from the title.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
An Amazon blurb for the book says the author will set out how her uncle "became the man who now threatens the world's health, economic security and social fabric".
back to topic.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
You seem trigged, chill, we moved on days ago from the title.
Nah, Paxman wasn't 'triggered', he just asked the same question until he got an answer. You haven't acknowledged your mistake yet, so I'm going to ask you again:

Are you going to address the fact that you didn't read the article you posted, and that no sexual abuse is mentioned, making the very title of this thread bunk?

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
back to topic.
The topic is "Was Trump paedoed himself?"

So, I'll ask you: was Trump sexually abused as a child, as the topic asks?

Originally posted by Scribble
Nah, Paxman wasn't 'triggered', he just asked the same question until he got an answer. You haven't acknowledged your mistake yet, so I'm going to ask you again:

Are you going to address the fact that you didn't read the article you posted, and that no sexual abuse is mentioned, making the very title of this thread bunk?

The topic is "Was Trump paedoed himself?"

So, I'll ask you: was Trump sexually abused as a child, as the topic asks?

Calm down and move on. The topic has moved forward.

So why should anyone believe what this niece have to say?

Not saying she’s lying, but it is sketchy, I’ve never heard of her until she wrote this book.

Originally posted by SquallX
So why should anyone believe what this niece have to say?

Not saying she’s lying, but it is sketchy, I’ve never heard of her until she wrote this book.

well Squall X does she have a record of being an habitual liar to the public like her uncle?

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Calm down and move on. The topic has moved forward.
Was Trump sexually assaulted as a kid? Stay on topic.

Originally posted by SquallX
So why should anyone believe what this niece have to say?

Not saying she’s lying, but it is sketchy, I’ve never heard of her until she wrote this book.

She was "reportedly a key source for the New York Times’ Pulitzer-winning reporting on Trump family tax affairs", according to the Guardian article posted by Whirly before, so she has some credit there, possibly. Other family members have said she's wrong, though.

Um, I get you want to make the thread about me. But we have moved on Surt mentioned emotional abuse and neglect as did I. This is a discussion about Trumps issues. Move on.

Originally posted by Scribble
She was "reportedly a key source for the New York Times’ Pulitzer-winning reporting on Trump family tax affairs", according to the Guardian article posted by Whirly before, so she has some credit there, possibly. Other family members have said she's wrong, though.
Good you are moving on, so she is a journalist... A little more credible than a politician.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Um, I get you want to make the thread about me. But we have moved on Surt mentioned emotional abuse and neglect as did I. This is a discussion about Trumps issues. Move on.
Although unable to actually say it for some reason, I take it you now admit you don't think Trump suffered sexual abuse as a child?
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Good you are moving on, so she is a journalist... A little more credible than a politician.
Politicians and journos are much the same to me these days. I suppose politicians win out by a hair, but journos have really fallen in the past couple of decades.

My own opinion would be that Trump does show some signs of neglect, which is common amongst rich families. It's nothing that out of the ordinary, and plenty of people who deal with neglect don't develop the kind of narcissism Trump displays. But many do, and Trump likely falls into that category — attention seeking, essentially.

Originally posted by Scribble
Although unable to actually say it for some reason, I take it you now admit you don't think Trump suffered sexual abuse as a child?
Politicians and journos are much the same to me these days. I suppose politicians win out by a hair, but journos have really fallen in the past couple of decades.

My own opinion would be that Trump does show some signs of neglect, which is common amongst rich families. It's nothing that out of the ordinary, and plenty of people who deal with neglect don't develop the kind of narcissism Trump displays. But many do, and Trump likely falls into that category — attention seeking, essentially.

Trump shows many signs of varied abuse. Including but not limited to his need for attention, inability to tie his tie the right length or comb his hair, lack of empathy, sexual misconduct etc. etc...

Oh, and what evidence has Mary provided to back up the variety of claims she makes in her book?

I know the usual suspects will not just be taking her at her word, not on my watch 🙂

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Trump shows many signs of varied abuse. Including but not limited to his need for attention, inability to tie his tie the right length or comb his hair, lack of empathy, sexual misconduct etc. etc...
The hair and tie thing can just be a symptom of being rich, as many boys have servants to do all that for them — but that can also be seen as a form of neglect.

I don't think I've seen a particular lack of empathy from him, he's just not a stereotypical 'bleeding heart lib'.

Honestly in private I think Trump is highly insecure, and so a lot of his exterior personality is a show to hide that. But that kind of personality can develop whether someone suffered abuse or not.

Trumps personality is like a lot of the rich elites.

The only difference is they have filters and he doesn't.

No way he's somehow more of a narcissist then, say, Pelosi or Clinton. They just hide it better, but oh lawdy what a fly on the wall has probably heard these people say in private...

Originally posted by Surtur
Trumps personality is like a lot of the rich elites.

The only difference is they have filters and he doesn't.

No way he's somehow more of a narcissist then, say, Pelosi or Clinton. They just hide it better, but oh lawdy what a fly on the wall has probably heard these people say in private...

Completely agreed. I'd say Hilary Clinton is considerably more narcissistic than Trump, and I don't think she even hides it well.

Trump's main public 'issue' is that he plays into it — but that's exactly what makes him appealing to some, that sense that he's at least being honest, instead of hiding behind a virtuous veneer.

Originally posted by Scribble
Completely agreed. I'd say Hilary Clinton is considerably more narcissistic than Trump, and I don't think she even hides it well.

Trump's main public 'issue' is that he plays into it — but that's exactly what makes him appealing to some, that sense that he's at least being honest, instead of hiding behind a virtuous veneer.

Trump needs to learn to pace himself.

I thought he gave a pretty good 4th of July speech. But then less than 48 hours later he starts talking about Nascar and bubba wallace. Pretty much giving people all the excuse they need to ignore the speech and focus on the stupid noose bullshit.

Originally posted by Surtur
Trump needs to learn to pace himself.

I thought he gave a pretty good 4th of July speech. But then less than 48 hours later he starts talking about Nascar and bubba wallace. Pretty much giving people all the excuse they need to ignore the speech and focus on the stupid noose bullshit.

I think it's too late for that, he's old and likely way too stuck in his ways. But for an older guy, he could be a lot worse. He could be babbling about liking having kids jump on his lap and stroke his hairy legs that turn blonde in the sun.

You are right about that main issue, though: as President, he needs to learn to step back from every single little issue or meme that crops up. It's too divisive and gives his enemies unnecessary ammunition. He should just focus on the big picture stuff, for the most part, instead of tweeting all over the place.