Next Gen Games For $70?

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
And w/out free market capitalism, we probably wouldn't have video games at all, and if we did they would probably all be pretty damn crappy since developers wouldn't have any real incentive to make genuinely good games so quit your whining about capitalism you socialist/commie.

As for the subject of this thread, I'm definitely against raising prices of games up to $70.00. That's just too much, imo.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
Hey bud, I just made a cool new game that I'm selling for $350. You're gonna buy it, right? Remember, having standards and expectations is communism!

Exactly how I feel any time I express an opinion, and get dog piled for it.

If having tastes and standards makes one a commie, then call me a commie.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Well, thanks $ony for pushing the $70 game price with their 1st party titles.

Which is funny when Microsoft releases all first part titles on Game Pass day one for 10 bucks.

I haven't seen the prices Microsoft is asking for on 1st party titles......

Game pass is essentially a rental.

Just a big waste of money.

Game pass is a great deal.

It would be if you can keep anything.

No different from a rental at blockbuster from where I'm sitting.

More like Netflix because as long as you are subscribed to the service and the game remains on said service you will be able to play it. There is no time limit.

Originally posted by cdtm
Exactly how I feel any time I express an opinion, and get dog piled for it.

If having tastes and standards makes one a commie, then call me a commie.

No, it is when you have opinions that seem to indicate you hate capitalism that people assume you're a commie. It is only logical for someone to think that... and he is a commie, or at the very least a socialist which is really just a commie in disguise.

Originally posted by cdtm
It would be if you can keep anything.

No different from a rental at blockbuster from where I'm sitting.

Okay, so... what's wrong with that? You don't like renting?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Okay, so... what's wrong with that? You don't like renting?

Well, the Xbox Live Gold was 60 bucks a year, and you got two games a month to keep (One for the 360, one for the Xbox One)

The Game Pass is 120 a year. Or 110 for the first year. You get to keep nothing once the subscription ends.

The advantage is the sheer size of the selection, but how many of those games will you really play in a year?

Or more to the point, how many am "I" gonna play? I'm the type who plays a game and sets it down, then picks it up again a few months later. Or if I do play through it, I'll enjoy it at a leisurely pace, mainly because I can't do extended gaming sessions anymore and hold my interest. An hour, a few hours tops, then I'm ready for a book or sleep.

I mean, here I am finishing up Everspace over a weeks vacation, and DDM picks it up and beats it the first time in a day. I'm just the type of person this scheme was made for, they'd love for me to buy into it and finish six games over three years instead of just buying a few used at GameXchange.

Originally posted by BackFire
More like Netflix because as long as you are subscribed to the service and the game remains on said service you will be able to play it. There is no time limit.

Kind of.

Same type of service, different type of entertainment. Movies and shows, you binge then move onto the next. Everyone does it, who watches movies and shows. Games can be binged, or they can be obsessed about over the long haul as you master them. I mean, some people stick with a game like Dragon Ball Fighter Z or Ikaruga and just play them religiously.

And of course you've got your 80-120+ hour rpg's.

Originally posted by cdtm
Well, the Xbox Live Gold was 60 bucks a year, and you got two games a month to keep (One for the 360, one for the Xbox One)

The Game Pass is 120 a year. Or 110 for the first year. You get to keep nothing once the subscription ends.

The advantage is the sheer size of the selection, but how many of those games will you really play in a year?

Or more to the point, how many am "I" gonna play? I'm the type who plays a game and sets it down, then picks it up again a few months later. Or if I do play through it, I'll enjoy it at a leisurely pace, mainly because I can't do extended gaming sessions anymore and hold my interest. An hour, a few hours tops, then I'm ready for a book or sleep.

I mean, here I am finishing up Everspace over a weeks vacation, and DDM picks it up and beats it the first time in a day. I'm just the type of person this scheme was made for, they'd love for me to buy into it and finish six games over three years instead of just buying a few used at GameXchange.

Oh. I honestly thought the price wasn't that high.

I dunno if I'd call the games on Gold free, though. A sub is still required, iirc.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Oh. I honestly thought the price wasn't that high.

I dunno if I'd call the games on Gold free, though. A sub is still required, iirc.

You pay for them, but get to keep them once the subscription ends.

Granted, most of the games are bargain bin stuff, so really not worth it. Certainly nothing of the caliber Epic Games Store gives away like GTA V, the entire Arkham franchise, Hitman 2016, Subnautica..

I love it, but kind of think Epic is out of their minds if they think people are ever going to buy anything just because they're getting free stuff.

Unless that's not the point, and all they want is to shore up registration numbers.

Originally posted by cdtm
Exactly how I feel any time I express an opinion, and get dog piled for it.

If having tastes and standards makes one a commie, then call me a commie.

Originally posted by cdtm
Game pass is essentially a rental.

Just a big waste of money.

Originally posted by cdtm
It would be if you can keep anything.

No different from a rental at blockbuster from where I'm sitting.

Why would this be a bad thing exactly? Most people only play most games once or twice anyway.

Originally posted by cdtm
Well, the Xbox Live Gold was 60 bucks a year, and you got two games a month to keep (One for the 360, one for the Xbox One)

The Game Pass is 120 a year. Or 110 for the first year. You get to keep nothing once the subscription ends.

The advantage is the sheer size of the selection, but how many of those games will you really play in a year?

Or more to the point, how many am "I" gonna play? I'm the type who plays a game and sets it down, then picks it up again a few months later. Or if I do play through it, I'll enjoy it at a leisurely pace, mainly because I can't do extended gaming sessions anymore and hold my interest. An hour, a few hours tops, then I'm ready for a book or sleep.

I mean, here I am finishing up Everspace over a weeks vacation, and DDM picks it up and beats it the first time in a day. I'm just the type of person this scheme was made for, they'd love for me to buy into it and finish six games over three years instead of just buying a few used at GameXchange.

Admittedly, this is the first time you've addressed a legitimately issue here: ultra casual gamers. The types of people who don't game regularly but do enjoy a specific title or two might lose out. I have a friend who basically only plays GTA. This would make zero sense for him.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Well, yeah, people are allowed to disagree with you. Especially when your opinions amount to "It's new. I'm scared!"

Like this, which you've still failed to provide a compelling argument for, just like last time we went through it. Blockbuster analogy is inaccurate. It's more like Netflix, which put Blockbuster out of business.

Why would this be a bad thing exactly? Most people play most games once or twice anyway...

Strawman response. Pretty much covered all of this.

Originally posted by cdtm
Kind of.

Same type of service, different type of entertainment. Movies and shows, you binge then move onto the next. Everyone does it, who watches movies and shows. Games can be binged, or they can be obsessed about over the long haul as you master them. I mean, some people stick with a game like Dragon Ball Fighter Z or Ikaruga and just play them religiously.

And of course you've got your 80-120+ hour rpg's.

Originally posted by cdtm
Strawman response. Pretty much covered all of this.

Like I said, different mediums.

Buying movies is a waste, because you watch it once, maybe twice, then get sick of it.

Renting games is a waste, because if the games good, you'll never get enough of it. That's the basis of "new money for old rope", where people keep rebuying the same game across platforms.

Of course, it depends on the type of gamer.. If you could marathon a game a week, maybe it's a good choice for you. I know people can do this.

Me, I just don't have it in me to game that much anymore. The 120 bucks a year would be better spent divided up on used games that I've been meaning to get too, or the odd sale. I guarantee I do not spend 120 in a year on games, nor could I really invest time in more then a game or two every few months..

I also can not justify too many new games, with a huge backlog dating back to the 16 bit era.

Just beat Starfox for the first time. And finished up Armored Core Project Phantasma's arena mode.

I see the $120 dollars per year as buying 1.5 games in a year. As long as I do that..it's a good deal. Considering MS releases all first party titles on Game Pass day one...it's a fantastic deal.

Also, I heard it's a great deal for developers because the get way better numbers from releasing on Game Pass instead of releasing like normal.

But overall, I have played more games that I would never have played because it's only a download. Just in the last month, I played Ace Combat 7, Spiritfarer, Battletoads, Streets of Rage 4, about 4 other indie games (like Overcooked 2), Wasteland 3, Star Renegades,. Over the last 6 months, Mechwarrior 5, Hypnospace Outlaws and etc.

I haven't had a chance but I can also play Flight Sim 2020, Crusader Kings 3, Tell Me Why and etc....also...lets not count the games that I have tried but didn't enjoy like No Man's Sky, Don't Starve and a few others....

Most of those games I would never play. It's a great ****ing deal and if there is a game you haven't finished but is leaving, you get discount if you buy digitally.

Originally posted by cdtm
Renting games is a waste, because if the games good, you'll never get enough of it. That's the basis of "new money for old rope", where people keep rebuying the same game across platforms.

That said, I condemn the idea of rebuying the same games on other platforms, which makes me more thankful for the level of backwards compatibility Microsoft has now with games.

Another big difference is the amount of games now.....10 years..we were lucky to get 2 AAA titles in a month..now it's like 4 and most of them are large open world games.

I felt less of a need to replay older games than I used because there is generally something always coming out. Top quality indie games were much less available 10 years ago..now its seems there is 1 every few days.