Slowest person who can land a hit on....

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
It was a significant increase in his speed as they showed him to be able to blitz a full-powered Jiren, and we already know Jiren to be MFTL+; in the Quadrillions x SoL range as proven by multiple calcs.

I don't think not mentioning an exact value for his speed makes the form itself poorly explained, it's been foreshadowed and explained since early DBS. We can just estimate what speed range he would fall in by scaling him to other characters, that's infact how most of fictional verses work; and DB is just one of them.

Stop using stupid and faulty fan calculations to make a point. Naruto forums is the king in using fan calcs.

There even a fan calf that puts the like of Heie dark tournament to be in the triple digits of speed because he cut a demons arm, and went back to his spot.

Originally posted by SquallX
Stop using stupid and faulty fan calculations to make a point. Naruto forums is the king in using fan calcs.

There even a fan calf that puts the like of Heie dark tournament to be in the triple digits of speed because he cut a demons arm, and went back to his spot.

😂 "I'm just going to point out a specific calc that I think is fallacious and use that to argue for calculations in general being inherently faulty".

That's how you sound right now, it being "fan" made or not is of ZERO importance as everything else people do like power-scaling and such is also technically "fan" made, writers generally don't give a shit about it. Calcs are the same, they're SIMPLY a way to quantify feats that occur in the source material, to help vsdebaters in their power-scaling endeavors, and you can't possibly from an opinion on those feats that's more reliable than the calculations by simply eye-balling or relying on your intuitions alone. period. cut the nonsense out

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 "I'm just going to point out a specific calc that I think is fallacious and use that to argue for calculations in general being inherently faulty".

That's how you sound right now, it being "fan" made or not is of ZERO importance as everything else people do like power-scaling and such is also technically "fan" made, writers generally don't give a shit about it. Calcs are the same, they're SIMPLY a way to quantify feats that occur in the source material, to help vsdebaters in their power-scaling endeavors, and you can't possibly from an opinion on those feats that's more reliable than the calculations by simply eye-balling or relying on your intuitions alone. period. cut the nonsense out

No genius, fan calcs are useless, because 10/10, those calcs are made by fans of said characters that purposely exaggerate numbers to make their characters look good.

Where as powers calling made sense because we the fans already has a basis to work with thanks to the writers.

No one takes calcs seriously because they are bias.

For example, if Silver Surfer travels the distance of 1 light year, in let's say 1 second. How would you find out the speed at which he was travelling? Except for using the S = D/T formula to divide 1 light year by 1 second and get the result, that's EXACTLY what calcs are all about. While they can be faulty with absurd assumptions, maybe the one you mentioned is one of them, but that doesn't discredit the practice of making calculations at all, if anything, that just implies that one needs to improve his/her ability to make calculations. Period

Anyone faster than him

Just give the manga a year or two, there will be another bad guy who will be faster/stronger and tag Goku

Any ways, big J was fast enough.

Originally posted by LordGod
Who is the slowest character in comics who can land a legitimate punch (or series of punches) on Ultra Instinct Goku?-

Please provide evidence to back up your claims, and we'll assume that Goku is going allout here.

And no time or reality manip obviously. Want to know who can do it with pure speed alone.

This can't be answered unless you can quantify his speed and reaction times.
Can he react and move several feet to avoid or block attacks within an attosecond? nanosecond? picosecond?

Originally posted by h1a8
This can't be answered unless you can quantify his speed and reaction times.
Can he react and move several feet to avoid or block attacks within an attosecond? nanosecond? picosecond?

First I think we need to fully understand what Ultra Instinct is.

Originally posted by Stoic
First I think we need to fully understand what Ultra Instinct is.