Wearing face mask....

Is this already a strict subject here?

I've seen many pro's and cons about this. Frankly imo the argument against are absurd. Especially those that try to say your oxygen in take is greatly reduced and that it increases your intake of CO2 (not to be confused with CO).

I'm not going to pretend have done a deep study on this subject, watching biased videos and reading biased post does not count for research.

I just point to the many years of mask use by various professions, i.e. those in the medical and general nursing field,...dentist-lol I know they are doctors too-but you know....I'm required to wear one at work, and have been doing so since March, without suffering any adverse effects.

Georgia's Gov. Kemp just rescinded the orders of several Georgian cities requiring the use of mask within their cities in public space. Interestingly he did this immediately following a very brief visit by President Trump.

The executive order reads in part:
“State, county, or municipal law, order, ordinance, rule, or regulation that requires persons to wear face coverings, masks, face shields, or any other Personal Protective Equipment while in places of public accommodation or on public property are suspended to the extent that they are more restrictive than this Executive Order.”

They're dangerous, imo, because it causes people to breathe in their own carbon dioxide which is toxic to humans in large amounts and they're certainly useless at protecting people against the virus so there is really no real medical/health reasons to justify people being forced to wear them.

If a place requires a mask in order to enter...well, what else can I do?

I can't blame people for resenting being told to wear masks given all the conflicting information we were given at first.

On the other hand I don't understand these people who have public meltdowns over masks. Actually I don't understand public meltdowns over anything these days. All cell phones have cameras. Big Brother isn't the only one watching, literally all it's citizens are too. Yay!

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
They're dangerous, imo, because it causes people to breathe in their own carbon dioxide which is toxic to humans in large amounts and they're certainly useless at protecting people against the virus so there is really no real medical/health reasons to justify people being forced to wear them.

Imo, these governors and mayors who're mandating we wear them know these things. I think they are programming/training us to accept an ever increasing amount of government control over our lives and that is extremely dangerous.

The media is constantly putting out so much "omg, the world is ending!" BS propaganda and sadly too many people are swallowing it whole without questioning it. They wanna get us all so scared that when the vaccine inevitably comes out many will be begging for it and those same people (who tend to be the same ones who hypocritically call themselves "pro-choice"😉 will be demanding that everyone else be forced to take it as well.

It won't matter to them that they and probably everyone in their own families have taken it which means they should all be safe if the vaccine truly works as they think. No, that won't be good enough for them; those "my body, my choice!" hypocrites will demand that everyone else not have a choice whether or not to have a vaccine put into their bodies.

I mean people don't want to stay at home, and the same people don't want to wear masks when they are out facepalm

I would say just go catch Covid and die then, but problem is you risk spreading it to those of us being sensible.

As for the studies, it's really not that conflicted. Japan did not have a lockdown but kept numbers of Covid cases relatively low due to them having no issue at all wearing masks.

Again, THE MASKS DON'T WORK!

They're useless as far as protecting people from getting the virus goes.

The mask is a symbol of being a willing, obedient slave to the tyrannical government.

If enough people put their foots down and refuse to obey the tyrannical order to wear a mask then the government would be powerless to stop them. They can't arrest such a huge number of people.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Again, THE MASKS DON'T WORK!

They're useless as far as protecting people from getting the virus goes.

That's not true at all.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
They're dangerous, imo, because it causes people to breathe in their own carbon dioxide which is toxic to humans in large amounts and they're certainly useless at protecting people against the virus so there is really no real medical/health reasons to justify people being forced to wear them.

But how come surgeons aren't dropping dead whenever they have like a 12 hour long surgery? Cuz they wear masks for a long time. It's not like a quick 45 minute trip to the store.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Again, THE MASKS DON'T WORK!

They're useless as far as protecting people from getting the virus goes.

The mask is a symbol of being a willing, obedient slave to the tyrannical government.

If enough people put their foots down and refuse to obey the tyrannical order to wear a mask then the government would be powerless to stop them. They can't arrest such a huge number of people.

When the government fears the people there is liberty.

When the people fear the government there is tyrrany.-Thomas Jefferson

Originally posted by Surtur
But how come surgeons aren't dropping dead whenever they have like a 12 hour long surgery? Cuz they wear masks for a long time. It's not like a quick 45 minute trip to the store.

Those aren't N95 masks though. The N95's are the most recommended as supposedly being "the safest" at protecting against the virus.

Nah this hasn't been discussed.

There is a need for balance when listening to the "media" which is why I go largely by my personal experience. When my personal experience falls short then I try to take a wider objective view....

The purpose/argument for wearing mask is:

1) To stop you (person who has this virus) from spreading the virus as easily.

That's it...just that simple

Now wearing the typical mask that the vast majority of us are wearing will not protect the person wearing the mask from contracting said virus if they were to walk through an area recently "infected". But again, wearing a mask reduces the chance of said virus from being spread from an infected person. Pretty simple.

My co-worker, with whom I share an office is now home and presumed Covid-19 positive. He has all the symptoms and was tested this past Tuesday and will have the results this Saturday. I have not in anyway exhibited any signs of being infected. Should I attribute this to good fortune or preventive action by being required to mask while at work.

Would you in my situation wear a mask?

This argument against using safety belts seems eerily familiar....

In this country, saving freedom is more important than trying to regulate lives through legislation.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1987-02-05-8701090791-story.html

The problem is many don't use them correctly, and risk contamination on the inside of the mask.

Hospitals are especially prone to this problem, as they regularly reuse masks.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
They're dangerous, imo, because it causes people to breathe in their own carbon dioxide which is toxic to humans in large amounts and they're certainly useless at protecting people against the virus so there is really no real medical/health reasons to justify people being forced to wear them.

Demonstrably untrue with K95's.

Not so sure about the random masks made by tailors and retailers. There's so many different materials, copper infused in some, and from personal experience "machine washable" types get MUCH harder to breath through on a single washing.

I no longer use the copper infused mask I paid 30 bucks for, because when I inhale it actually collapses across my face, and I have great difficulty drawing a breath.

I had a similar problem with a KN95 I sprayed down with hydrogen peroxide (A recommended method of decontamination) and air stopped flowing freely through it.

For the last 3-4 months I've had to wear an N95 mask for 12hrs at a time, every day I work. They can definitely get annoying and can often make communicating with people more difficult, but I've never experienced any adverse effects from wearing one for prolonged periods of time. It's just the way things are now, and I've accepted that.

People who get triggered by mask-wearing are just idiotic, though. Yes, you as an individual have the 'right' to not wear a mask, just like businesses have the 'right' to not let you enter their building if you choose not to wear one. You can't have it both ways.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Nah this hasn't been discussed.

Originally posted by Galan007
For the last 3-4 months I've had to wear an N95 mask for 12hrs at a time, every day I work.

Unfortunately, the only quality research out there, supports this being the only effective use of masks for combating VRIs. Quality research does not support the use of masks, even surgical masks, outside of strictly worn and properly fitted, continuous use of N95s. And that research specifically applies to the healthcare setting where you are exposed to VRIs.

Meaning, the science is on the side of healthcare workers needing to wear, with strict protocols, N95 masks all damn day.

Originally posted by Galan007
People who get triggered by mask-wearing are just idiotic, though. Yes, you as an individual have the 'right' to not wear a mask, just like businesses have the 'right' to not let you enter their building if you choose not to wear one. You can't have it both ways.

Spot-on. 👆

I object to wearing a face-mask in public based on the science. It doesn't support mask wearing, of any kind. It's just an irritating inconvenience. However, I'm not going to throw a fit because they require I wear a mask to shop. That's just asinine. How about I just order online and have it delivered? Or pull up and have the things put into my trunk with "contact-less pick-up"? No excuse to not wear a mask in public - don't go in public.

Originally posted by tru-marvell
This argument against using safety belts seems eerily familiar....

In this country, saving freedom is more important than trying to regulate lives through legislation.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1987-02-05-8701090791-story.html

Apples and oranges.

Originally posted by cdtm
Demonstrably untrue with K95's.

Not so sure about the random masks made by tailors and retailers. There's so many different materials, copper infused in some, and from personal experience "machine washable" types get MUCH harder to breath through on a single washing.

I no longer use the copper infused mask I paid 30 bucks for, because when I inhale it actually collapses across my face, and I have great difficulty drawing a breath.

I had a similar problem with a KN95 I sprayed down with hydrogen peroxide (A recommended method of decontamination) and air stopped flowing freely through it.

No, it's not untrue. It's factual. I've seen people testing the N95 mask on screen on you Tube. The Owen Shroyer video I linked to in the other thread showed that you end up breathing in large amounts of your own Co2. Wake up.