Originally posted by Silent Master
What have the rioters said their specific goals are?
If a movement doesn't have clearly defined leaders it is more vague what the goals are, as I said in the other thread, one thing that certainly seems to have become one the accepted goals according to politicians and the media, is the demand that the funding for police is cut back.
Originally posted by Artol
If a movement doesn't have clearly defined leaders it is more vague what the goals are, as I said in the other thread, one thing that certainly seems to have become one the accepted goals according to politicians and the media, is the demand that the funding for police is cut back.
So the media and politicians have spoken specifically to the rioters and the rioters told them that their goals are for the police to be cut back?
Originally posted by Silent Master
Then how do they and you know what the rioters goals are?
Like I said it’s not about knowing what the rioters goals are, because they are not a centrally organized group, the riots are adjacent to the protests, and what the mainstream defines as the goals comes out of many different sources, and the framing is hotly contented by different groups. One of the framings is the one we read about in this article, that rioters are just anarchists hellbent on chaos and distraction. Another is the one that the rioters are fed up with racism and police brutality and therefore show their anger in rioting. You can try to contribute your own interpretation and as goes on the main interpretations are going to crystallize. That’s how it usually goes, that’s how we talk about the civil rights movement, that’s how we talk about the suffragette movement, that’s how we talk about the revolutionary war.
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Always complaining, never happy with anything
Because people aren't as stupid as they'd like them to be.
No matter what tactics they use, no matter how much money they throw into research on psychology and other manipulations, they can't completely dominate the masses like "god", as they desire.
And they never will. World conquest is a fools game.
Originally posted by cdtm
Because people aren't as stupid as they'd like them to be.No matter what tactics they use, no matter how much money they throw into research on psychology and other manipulations, they can't completely dominate the masses like "god", as they desire.
And they never will. World conquest is a fools game.
Whirly thinks his was is righteous and it’s it’s self described “god” as you will.
Good post make sense
LOL@ the comment that right-wingers under Obama's presidency acted like left-wingers are acting today under Trump. It is not even remotely comparable.
Yes, Obama sucked ass as a president and those of us on the right were not happy with many of the things he said and did but most of us were still happy in our personal lives. We didn't let Obama affect us personally.
Modern day leftists, otoh, seem to have "orange man bad!" on their minds 24/7.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae20 point lead... 🙂 November is coming.
LOL@ the comment that right-wingers under Obama's presidency acted like left-wingers are acting today under Trump. It is not even remotely comparable.Yes, Obama sucked ass as a president and those of us on the right were not happy with many of the things he said and did but most of us were still happy in our personal lives. We didn't let Obama affect us personally.
Modern day leftists, otoh, seem to have "orange man bad!" on their minds 24/7.
Originally posted by Artol
A Progressive mindset supposes that there is something wrong with the current time that could be improved. Seeing such problems can perhaps make someone unhappy, although I don't think leftists or even liberals are generally unhappy people. Of course when the opposing party is in power you may be unhappy about the direction of politics, I would say that was similar under Obama with right wingers though. Another factor is that perhaps unhappy people are more drawn to leftists politics that promise to change things, rather than leftist politics having made them unhappy.
Originally posted by Silent Master
If nobody knows their goals, what is the purpose of their rioting?
Their goals are nearly as diverse as the individuals involved.
Originally posted by StyleTime
👆As Artol has stated, "The Rioters" aren't a monolith. Some represent fringe ideologies who see this as an opportunity to affect politics. Some are radicals who believe force is necessary to fight unjust systems. Some might have no political allegiance and think it's fun. Some may be agent provocateurs used by the government to undermine movements. Some are thieves looking to capitalize on the chaos.
Their goals are nearly as diverse as the individuals involved.
The protestors are irrelevant.
It's the narrative spinster who controls political discourse.
On a CNN Youtube comments section on a breaking story, a poster claims as fact that an alt-right terrorist ran some people down. I asked the question "How can you know that? How can anyone know whether he's right, left, or center?"
That's spin.
Another well tread example is a protest of half a dozen people, hyped up as a full blown event.
Happens all the time.