Originally posted by Surtur
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10967156/mum-branded-transgender-woman-a-pig/
This seems fair to me, online harassment should have consequences. It is very hard to enforce, but you can’t just do whatever you want to another person online. I think too many people think that the Internet is a lawless zone where no decency or law should apply, and then behave like savages with that excuse. But I think if you harass, or libel someone you should face legal consequences, whether it is online or through a newspaper or some other way.
The ruling seems pretty fair as well for a first time offense. Conditional discharge and 1000£ in court costs. Of course there will be people that Rallye around her cause because they see her as a martyr of the anti-trans movement, so she probably will get more out of it than she lost monetarily, similar to the YouTube Count Dankula, and his minor conviction.
So weird, you can block ppl on twitter so how did this become a legal issue, Oh found it:
“I take the view it was unkind and abusive. I find you were well aware of what you were doing. You do not deny the comments.“You started the tweets, you could have stopped them. Little on the internet remains a secret. You caused needless annoyance and anxiety.
“You said in your evidence that you knew it would get to Stephanie. It was not just the content but also the choice of one of the usernames was to deliberately annoy her. I find you guilty.”
Lulz, I watched the videos linked and they were nothing like what happened in this incident, the only guy that had charges brought were because he threatened bodily harm or to incite violence.
Anyway GG UK.
Originally posted by -Pr-
If you had posted any, they might have had an effect. But we both know you didn't, don't we?Claiming a non-existent victory does seem par for the course for you, though.
Yeah but...
Originally posted by -Pr-
The UK isn't a country either.
I don't understand what you're saying. Are you trolling Surtur? if so, ignore everything I'm about to point out.
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, commonly known as the United Kingdom (UK or U.K.)[14] or Britain,[note 10] is a sovereign country located off the north_western coast of the European mainland.
It has a:
Country flag
Country Coat of Arms
Country song
Country capital
Country official language
Country government
Country leader(s)
Country boundaries with very explicit lon lat coordinates
Country currency
Country ISO code
If you mean to make a distinction between the UK's constituent countries, which are functionally similar to provinces and states in other countries, that's fine.* But the United Kingdom is still a country.
*NB4 discussions and rules of secession are stronger in the constituent countries of the UK compared to the US - they are not. Some US States' constitutions explicitly make mention of secession provisions such as Texas (Texas v. White).
Originally posted by dadudemon
I don't understand what you're saying. Are you trolling Surtur? if so, ignore everything I'm about to point out.It has a:
Country flag
Country Coat of Arms
Country song
Country capital
Country official language
Country government
Country leader(s)
Country boundaries with very explicit lon lat coordinates
Country currency
Country ISO codeIf you mean to make a distinction between the UK's constituent countries, which are functionally similar to provinces and states in other countries, that's fine.* But the United Kingdom is still a country.
*NB4 discussions and rules of secession are stronger in the constituent countries of the UK compared to the US - they are not. Some US States' constitutions explicitly make mention of secession provisions such as Texas (Texas v. White).
I was mostly dicking around, but I dunno if I would agree with anyone likening Scotland and Wales to provinces. That's me though.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
The Scottish and the Irish like to pretend they are separate from the UK (perhaps because they hate the English so much, or at least they used to). They're not. At least the northern part of Ireland is part of the UK. All of Scotland is, I believe.
Edit: Be glad you edited.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I don't understand what you're saying. Are you trolling Surtur? if so, ignore everything I'm about to point out.It has a:
Country flag
Country Coat of Arms
Country song
Country capital
Country official language
Country government
Country leader(s)
Country boundaries with very explicit lon lat coordinates
Country currency
Country ISO codeIf you mean to make a distinction between the UK's constituent countries, which are functionally similar to provinces and states in other countries, that's fine.* But the United Kingdom is still a country.
*NB4 discussions and rules of secession are stronger in the constituent countries of the UK compared to the US - they are not. Some US States' constitutions explicitly make mention of secession provisions such as Texas (Texas v. White).
The main question of nationhood in Europe is whether they have a united football team, which means that de facto the United Kingdom is made up of multiple countries.
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I have no Idea what you're talking about.Is it this one?
Or this one?
These are great finds. I really enjoyed the stories behind them and the videos themselves.
As for the first video, that's not protected speech. She should, at the minimum, be fined. Max, serve time in jail for incitement to violence. She done f*cked up. lol!
Here's the facebook post that got the second guy in hot water:
#1 The lack of any compassion within this orange mother****er's administration is beyond comprehension.Being someone that's facing their own impending end I rarely wish death on anyone else, but in the case of Donald Trump it wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit if he met with an excruciatingly painful, prolonged death that took his voice, movement, but left his sick, demented brain intact so that he could experience every single painful second of his path to death!!!
#2 Would love to see that orange mother****er hanging from the ceiling with one of his red ties wrapped around his ****ing neck!!!
Oops, too much, nah, maybe even roast the orange mother****er while he's hanging there!!!"
If that isn't as close as possible to incitement to violence, without actually stepping over the line, I don't know what is. They should enter this into law school when cover the incitement to violence section. To see how close he was to being over the line, you'd need an electron microscope.
In the US, freedom of speech is very generous. But it does not cover incitement to violence and violent threats. Thankfully, we have plenty of case law that makes it very clear what incitement to violence is.
The secret service agents that visited him were not young - they likely served Obama. They are non-partisan. They are there to protect the US Presidents (and former), user leaders, and financial systems. They probably think the dude in the second vid is a giant *******/douche especially for the accusations of being Trump's shills.
Edit - Also, it's why I warned a certain caustic KMC poster about his comments going too far about Trump a while back. It's best to stay away from those types of statements.
Originally posted by jaden_2.0"Land of the Free"
*Jails more people than tyrannical oppresive dictatorship*
lol, Surtur, Jaden WTFPWN3D a la 2007 Internets with this post.
The US is a police state, for sure. With our foreign wars, drug war, and class wars, we are not the land of the free. We are the land of the lawyered and rich.