No CIS means this depends entirely on whether or not Superman can hit Loki before he activates magic and keep him down. The contention, is that:
(1) Loki's magic is thought-activated and faster than light or thought. Superman can also react and move faster than thought or light, but Loki doesn't even have to move to us his magic (Teleported Absorbing Man to a different planet and back, arms-crossed etc).
(2) Aside from having Herald level durability unlike other Sorcerer's (Doesn't matter here), Loki has defensive healing spells that can repair or has come back from attacks that should be fatal without any injury (It's why Mjolnir is so dangerous, it counters his magic).
(3) Loki can exist as an astral projection and apparently not lose much or any power unlike other Sorcerers.
Bell starts, Superman attempts to punch Loki's head off. Is that enough to stop him? If not, not sure how Superman can win.
Loki could teleport him into a Red Sun or turn everything in the area into Kryptonite while being intangible, invisible, a dozen dimensions away? No CIS becomes stupid when you're not limited to mana or incantation. It's basically, a pointless and rigged thread against Superman imo. It's not really a fight, but a prolonged prep thread.
Originally posted by Damborgson
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@Mr.Mind,
that's fair...but I'd assume we could find a few at least.
Maybe from the anime forums or something.
Well, neither you nor abhi are virgins at this, so if you both agree to judges then that should be fair.
So say, someone like Juntai, Phildo, Rage and Celey, with someone like Galan then rounding it out. Or if you both think someone like say KM was impartial,then have him.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No CIS means this depends entirely on whether or not Superman can hit Loki before he activates magic and keep him down. The contention, is that:(1) Loki's magic is thought-activated and faster than light or thought. Superman can also react and move faster than thought or light, but Loki doesn't even have to move to us his magic (Teleported Absorbing Man to a different planet and back, arms-crossed etc).
(2) Aside from having Herald level durability unlike other Sorcerer's (Doesn't matter here), Loki has defensive healing spells that can repair or has come back from attacks that should be fatal without any injury (It's why Mjolnir is so dangerous, it counters his magic).
(3) Loki can exist as an astral projection and apparently not lose much or any power unlike other Sorcerers.
Bell starts, Superman attempts to punch Loki's head off. Is that enough to stop him? If not, not sure how Superman can win.
Loki could teleport him into a Red Sun or turn everything in the area into Kryptonite while being intangible, invisible, a dozen dimensions away? No CIS becomes stupid when you're not limited to mana or incantation. It's basically, a pointless and rigged thread against Superman imo. It's not really a fight, but a prolonged prep thread.
There is no such thing as speed of thought. It's time of thought. In other words, the time it takes to make a thought.
1. Post scans of Loki teleporting someone without moving and pointing.
2. Post scans of Loki being able to teleport a moving object that he can't perceive the location of at a particular moment.
3. Prove that Loki knows the exact composition of kryptonite and that he can turn the surroundings into kryptonite and that the kryptonite will work on Superman (not from his universe).
4. Prove that Loki can teleport and create kryptonite while being intangible.
5. Leaving the battle field is not allowed.
Besides teleportation, what other magic from Loki can harm Superman significantly?
Originally posted by Damborgson
Indeed.----------------
@Mr.Mind,
that's fair...but I'd assume we could find a few at least.
Maybe from the anime forums or something.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No CIS means this depends entirely on whether or not Superman can hit Loki before he activates magic and keep him down. The contention, is that:(1) Loki's magic is thought-activated and faster than light or thought. Superman can also react and move faster than thought or light, but Loki doesn't even have to move to us his magic (Teleported Absorbing Man to a different planet and back, arms-crossed etc).
(2) Aside from having Herald level durability unlike other Sorcerer's (Doesn't matter here), Loki has defensive healing spells that can repair or has come back from attacks that should be fatal without any injury (It's why Mjolnir is so dangerous, it counters his magic).
(3) Loki can exist as an astral projection and apparently not lose much or any power unlike other Sorcerers.
Bell starts, Superman attempts to punch Loki's head off. Is that enough to stop him? If not, not sure how Superman can win.
Loki could teleport him into a Red Sun or turn everything in the area into Kryptonite while being intangible, invisible, a dozen dimensions away? No CIS becomes stupid when you're not limited to mana or incantation. It's basically, a pointless and rigged thread against Superman imo. It's not really a fight, but a prolonged prep thread.