Can Loki stop Superman?

Started by -Pr-9 pages
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
I bet you know a lot about making a sandwich though 😛

I can neither confirm nor deny such a thing.

Originally posted by Galan007
The impressive part for me isn't *just* that he reassembled the moon. It's that he reassembled the moon exactly how it appeared before -- complete with its previous craters and general topography:

...In a single page, lol.

👆 The ultimate jigsaw puzzle.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
@diesl

looking for pieces of rock is a much more involved and complex process of function so it's a much more complex feat of speed. But again, IT'S NOT applicable for a hypothetical fight when you're discussing characters in character.

For instance, if Superman has 100 examples of that level of complex speed.

But, Superman has 200 examples of limitation in terms of using that level of speed in combat, then How do WE know those 100 high speed examples of complex movement can be applied to fighting coordination, reflex and instinct?

Its LITERALLY wishful thinking, period. the 200 examples (for instance) are an actual demonstration of that concept in a microscope. If the demonstration denotes certain limitations under combative conditions then those limitations need be accounted for too.

Supes is hard to pin down because the scales between his lax state and his maximum effort state are massive in distance between them.

What the heck? This is just word diarrhea that you’re copying from somewhere.

You mentioned “coordination, reflex and instinct” that’s exactly what he did in the moon rebuild. So according to you he has 200 such examples but we can’t use them because he he doesn’t have an opponent? 😂

So using that logic, Flying in a straight line Is a more combat feat because he flew into someone?

Operating at the same speed, looking for specific rocks, trillions of them, from thousands of miles apart, flying to them, collecting them and putting them in a specific space, in that time, how many punches could he have landed on your favorite character?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Absolutely, that's EXACTLY what my point was. and you've yet to prove how it's applicable in a combat situation. NOW Gladiator blitzing Heimdall is WHAT combat speed looks like, learn the difference.

Where's your common sense? A punch is far less complex than searching space for the right moon piece, moving to the exact location, and placing it in its correct spot. You could have thrown multiple punches by then.

Requires for combat speed
1. Move very fast from a stand still
2. Perceive and react in very small increments of time

He’s been utterly destroyed by logic

Assembling a complex puzzle at hyper speed>punches and kicks😂

This is complete embarrassing and one of the biggest self owns on the forum

Originally posted by abhilegend
Ok, let me know who's in your mind.
So doing complex things like reassembling a moon is not combat speed?

And you wonder why everyone call you a moron.

Okay how about

1. Philo

2. Supermutant

3. KM

4. Leo(?)

5. Smurph

Hmm, not sure they will be unbiased.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Absolutely, that's EXACTLY what my point was. and you've yet to prove how it's applicable in a combat situation. NOW Gladiator blitzing Heimdall is WHAT combat speed looks like, learn the difference.

Moron

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hmm, not sure they will be unbiased.

Whom in particular ?

Get Pr, Smuph, Bada, KM, Leo. As unbiased as you get.

no

get rage, celey, khazar reborn, carver and alberto

Leo hardly posts anymore

Originally posted by MrMind
no

get rage, celey, khazar reborn, carver and alberto

so you want a quick 5 votes for Abhi ?

Originally posted by Damborgson
Whom in particular ?

Leo and smurph actually.

We could keep it to 3 judges, Philo, KM and SM.

OK, when should we start?

Here ill PM you some more details.

Ok

I suggest you agree to the terms in specific detail:
- starting distance
- prep
- battlefield
- what you can do inside the battlefield, depending on how large/small it is
etc.
So that you don't mid-match go "Hey, no sundipping" or stuff like that.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Performing a complex action at superspeed applies to combat. Of course it does. If the mind can process the information and the body can follow with minimum delay, then yes, it applies.

Except it doesn't apply

There are plenty of people who can hit pads fast enough but being in combat is a whole 'nother story.

There's an old cowboy type who can shoot from his holster at targets so fast that he can make two shots sound like the same fire, but he wouldn't hold a candle to keeping up with someone in a fist fight.

These things matter. If you don't have a bunch of feats demonstrating limitations in combat, that's one thing, you can make a hypothesis based on hypothetical relevance and relativity. But, when you do have a number of feats showcasing said limitations then you're dealing with a realm of known/observable statistical data and making the same hypothetical hypothesis would necessarily have to be made under the duress of "despite existing evidence to the contrary, PERIOD.

I've seen that argument presented too many times and it ALWAYS suffers the same flaws.

How can one conflate demonstrations of complex super speed as super combat speed? Like what lmao? Haha yeah I'm SURE there's merit to the perspective in some hypothetical manner but in terms of limitation? we see that limitation presented, often. Not disputable

Originally posted by abhilegend
Moron

😂 Stay salty, keep throwing that nonsense about that feat at me and i'll keep dismantling it, fanboy.