Originally posted by tkitna
The worm was a writers cop out. If Dsentry wasnt contained somehow, Marvel would have lost Thor and the Wasp.
It almost sounds like you think the Sentry is an entity separate from the comics or the writer's control.
The worm is 5000 times more powerful than Thor, the Sentry and Galactus combined if the writer wants it to be.
Or do you think Remender suddenly wrote himself into a corner and needed to come up with something in the last 5 minutes?
I mean, just listen to yourself here.
Originally posted by tkitna
If Dsentry wasnt contained somehow, Marvel would have lost Thor and the Wasp.
What do you think was next on Sentry's agenda? Taking out Marvel headquarters? Do you see the Sentry doing anything other than exactly what the writer wants him to?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Then where does it stop?I could argue it was poor writing that Sentry beat Thor - he's taken on greater threats like Glory etc.
You could, but that would open up a different can of...worms. -badum-tss-
Hero's when compared to each other tend to perform differently than against larger than life threats of course. Thor's hammer throws knocked out the phoenix who severely outclasses the entire threat from that Uncanny Avengers arc. But we know that's not how authors can keep their stories rolling.
It can be seen from different perspectives:
1. That's a strong worm. It outperformed Thor and Wasp by far. Easily a creature from a very high tier.
2. Sentry is a total punk who loses to featless worms but beats up feat heavy characters like Thor. (Bit of a contradiction)
3. The worm is the equivalent of a BFR to get Sentry away from the hero without having Sentry take an L to an established character like Thor.
3 seems most likely to me.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I remember when people were all excited about him taking over Superman....that he'd be jobbed down etc.Arguably some of his best feats have come within the last five years. If not directly via Bendis, it's at least a form of golden age in terms of feats.
Yep. Their was nervous feelings in the Superman camp and giddy feelings in the carver camp IIRC.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Then where does it stop?I could argue it was poor writing that Sentry beat Thor - he's taken on greater threats like Glory etc.
Nice try. DS Sentry would destroy Glory. He defeated far more at a time that Bob was still in discovery mode when he embarrassed the Molecule Man. People want to move away from the fact that physical injury, and even death was meaningless to the Sentry, and then attempt to nullify, or outright ignore that it was stated to be a solidified figment of Robert's imagination. He already died and came back, was embued with the death seed in one instance, and in the next was back to the golden boy look. Why? Because he is what Bob imagines him, or it to be. His weakness so far has been negative space, and Bob's psychological disposition. So he does in fact have weaknesses. However, it was clearly shown that DS Sentry was not affected by physical assaults. But yeah, let's build a case for the Worm even though we the next time we see Sentry he had no maiming wounds on his/it's person.
Originally posted by Damborgson
You could, but that would open up a different can of...worms. -badum-tss-Hero's when compared to each other tend to perform differently than against larger than life threats of course. Thor's hammer throws knocked out the phoenix who severely outclasses the entire threat from that Uncanny Avengers arc. But we know that's not how authors can keep their stories rolling.
It can be seen from different perspectives:
1. That's a strong worm. It outperformed Thor and Wasp by far. Easily a creature from a very high tier.
2. Sentry is a total punk who loses to featless worms but beats up feat heavy characters like Thor. (Bit of a contradiction)
3. The worm is the equivalent of a BFR to get Sentry away from the hero without having Sentry take an L to an established character like Thor.
3 seems most likely to me.
He stated that he wasn't there to kill Thor. He had a story to tell him, after which he exits stage. The Worm was a plot end, nothing more.
Originally posted by Damborgson
You could, but that would open up a different can of...worms. -badum-tss-Hero's when compared to each other tend to perform differently than against larger than life threats of course. Thor's hammer throws knocked out the phoenix who severely outclasses the entire threat from that Uncanny Avengers arc. But we know that's not how authors can keep their stories rolling.
It can be seen from different perspectives:
1. That's a strong worm. It outperformed Thor and Wasp by far. Easily a creature from a very high tier.
2. Sentry is a total punk who loses to featless worms but beats up feat heavy characters like Thor. (Bit of a contradiction)
3. The worm is the equivalent of a BFR to get Sentry away from the hero without having Sentry take an L to an established character like Thor.
3 seems most likely to me.
Then we can also turn around and say Sentry's performance against Thor was simply his time to shine, like how Thor's performance against Glory was his time to shine. Just because the author wanted to keep the story rolling.
Featless worm..... except for its performance against Sentry
Featless Sentry...... except for his performance against the Avengers.
If you mean towards 3, then it's really saying the worm was PIS. Which is fair.
Originally posted by Stoic
Nice try. DS Sentry would destroy Glory. He defeated far more at a time that Bob was still in discovery mode when he embarrassed the Molecule Man. People want to move away from the fact that physical injury, and even death was meaningless to the Sentry, and then attempt to nullify, or outright ignore that it was stated to be a solidified figment of Robert's imagination. He already died and came back, was embued with the death seed in one instance, and in the next was back to the golden boy look. Why? Because he is what Bob imagines him, or it to be. His weakness so far has been negative space, and Bob's psychological disposition. So he does in fact have weaknesses. However, it was clearly shown that DS Sentry was not affected by physical assaults. But yeah, let's build a case for the Worm even though we the next time we see Sentry he had no maiming wounds on his/it's person.
And Okoye with a spear, Fat Cobra and Susan Storm all held him off.
Originally posted by abhilegendAnd where did this happen with death seed sentry?
Oh, I dunno, how about when Sentry was conscious while he was burning down to a single atom and regenerating back over and over again? Or when he burnt down to a skeleton and talked to the Void? Or how about when he ripped his own head apart and laughed? Or how about when he got his brain smashed in and instantly regenerated again?
At which point do you realize that when it comes down to the wire physical damage is not enough to stop the Sentry properly. Sentrys immortality is Flashes speed. The one guy can't be stopped and the other guy can't be touched. It's cheap as fuvk, but it is how it is.
Originally posted by Enzeru
Oh, I dunno, how about when Sentry was conscious while he was burning down to a single atom and regenerating back over and over again? Or when he burnt down to a skeleton and talked to the Void? Or how about when he ripped his own head apart and laughed? Or how about when he got his brain smashed in and instantly regenerated again?At which point do you realize that when it comes down to the wire physical damage is not enough to stop the Sentry properly. Sentrys immortality is Flashes speed. The one guy can't be stopped and the other guy can't be touched. It's cheap as fuvk, but it is how it is.
Apocalypse twins resurrected him from a corpse.
Nothing about that says he is an energy being and can't be knocked out. You're being an idiot, again.