Originally posted by -Pr-
So do I blame Stilt or Abhi for bringing Thor in to this thread?
Neither.
Booya_69 did it on the previous page and we replied. Then he edited his post.
Back on topic, who do you think could "tank" the bone claws?
Imo, they would break only against Shazam and Supes... and *maybe* (huge maybe) Cyborg, if Wolverine targeted some well-armored part of his body --- if he is indeed made out of promethium nowadays, that is.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Neither.Booya_69 did it on the previous page and we replied. Then he edited his post.
Back on topic, who do you think could "tank" the bone claws?
Imo, they would break only against Shazam and Supes... and *maybe* (huge maybe) Cyborg, if Wolverine targeted some well-armored part of his body --- if he is indeed made out of promethium nowadays, that is.
If by tank, you mean "is completely unaffected", then probably only Superman and Shazam.
That said, I can't imagine him stabbing say, Aquaman that deeply with them either.
Originally posted by -Pr-
If by tank, you mean "is completely unaffected", then probably only Superman and Shazam.That said, I can't imagine him stabbing say, Aquaman that deeply with them either.
I should be asking you what you meant by that.
But yeah, let's stick to what Dambo intended, so no scratch, no discernible effect --- "completely unaffected", as you said.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Just wait though, I'm sure Stilt has an obscure Logan solo book where his bone claws do something ridiculous.
Even if we exclude them cutting Thanos (as that cross-over is not allowed on KMC), we still have them cutting through Onslaught's forcefield, hurting Cardiac despite his vibranium-mesh armor/skin, knocking out (drunk) Ms. Marvel, slicing clean through steel swords and trees like nothing...
They shattered against super-metals like uru and adamantium - which makes perfect sense.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Even I do. Logan pierced Onslaught's force field with his claws.
Yeah. He's cut the Hulk and cut through things like steel bulkheads with them too.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I should be asking you what you meant by that.But yeah, let's stick to what Dambo intended, so no scratch, no discernible effect --- "completely unaffected", as you said.
Even if we exclude them cutting Thanos (as that cross-over is not allowed on KMC), we still have them cutting through Onslaught's forcefield, hurting Cardiac despite his vibranium-mesh armor/skin, knocking out (drunk) Ms. Marvel, slicing clean through steel swords and trees like nothing...
They shattered against super-metals like uru and adamantium - which makes perfect sense.
I'm sure Logan could cut Aquaman/Wonder Woman/Martian Manhunter with bone claws. It's the stabbing and how deep it would go that's the question I would be curious about.
@Phil
Yeah, itching to post that scan with impartial narrator stating how he is no match for pure adamantium.
Originally posted by -Pr-
I'm sure Logan could cut Aquaman/Wonder Woman/Martian Manhunter with bone claws. It's the stabbing and how deep it would go that's the question I would be curious about.
Diana - all the way through. Hot knife through butter.
Aquaman - has a chance of taking them better than Diana, as all evidence from new 52 to current shows us, I'd say. But having bulletproof muscles/bones is one thing, having them BC-proof is the other.
J'onn - probably same as Diana...? Unless perhaps if he is allowed to morph into some tougher form or w/e, but Dambo seems against it and I'm not sure if it even is J'onn's thing.
Originally posted by Philosophía
Pr is itching to post some Colossus/Wolverine scans.
Ha. Interestingly enough, I think you can argue that Colossus's stabbing resilience is higher than that of several heralds.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
@PhilYeah, itching to post that scan with impartial narrator stating how he is no match for pure adamantium.
Diana - all the way through. Hot knife through butter.
Aquaman - has a chance of taking them better than Diana, as all evidence from new 52 to current shows us, I'd say. But having bulletproof muscles/bones is one thing, having them BC-proof is the other.
J'onn - probably same as Diana...? Unless perhaps if he is allowed to morph into some tougher form or w/e, but Dambo seems against it and I'm not sure if it even is J'onn's thing.
Wonder Woman is too inconsistent for me to argue, so I'm not gonna.
Aquaman... yeah, if it was in a comic I imagine Logan would be able to cut or stab him. It is Logan.
J'onn is... probably more durable than either of them (at least when it comes to cutting damage), if we're going by his default form. He'd still be "cuttable" though, I would say. He'd just recover much faster than the other too.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Wonder Woman is too inconsistent for me to argue, so I'm not gonna.
Isn't she very consistent when it comes to her inability to no-sell piercing attacks?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Does J'onn have any durability feats which aren't just him morphing?
That's what I'm wondering about, too.
Some powers of Superman he just fails to mimic, imho... and durability is one of those.
Meh, Midnighter Karnak'd him. J'onn has good durability [not Superman, but not shit either, it's serviceable]. His healing and shapeshifting are ridiculous, so he's kind of like Wolverine in that his durability doesn't really matter -- but he is cursed with having to gets his shit kicked for shock value [and it's usually by very powerful guys, so eh].
Off the top of my head, I can't remember significant cutting/edge attacks that are worth talking about with pure durability. The ones that happened, he generally uses shapeshift/elasticity or phases around them.
Originally posted by -Pr-Easily. Even higher ones -- Wonder Woman gets a lot of shit mostly because she doesn't have fans, but Thor is atrocious. If you don't have pure invulnerability [i.e. like the Marvels, or Supergirl] or some sort of protective shield [like Surfer or Captain Atom and even then..] there's a very good chance you're a herald that has been pierced/cut at some point by randoms hit. Colossus lives for that shit.
Ha. Interestingly enough, I think you can argue that Colossus's stabbing resilience is higher than that of several heralds.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Isn't she very consistent when it comes to her [b]inability to no-sell piercing attacks?That's what I'm wondering about, too.
Some powers of Superman he just fails to mimic, imho... and durability is one of those. [/B]
She is and she isn't. It depends on era/writer etc.
There are times (as you've pointed out) where a bullet will go right through her and she'll drop. There are times, though, when she's taken damage from cutting/stabbing and kept fighting (whether the bullet or blade went through her or not). And, rarely as it is, there are times when she straight up tanks stuff that should pierce her (context willing as I can't recall them all).
She's definitely not bulletproof, though. That much is obvious. Even her muscles can't seem to resist them as well as Aquaman or J'onn can.
It's another problem that we simply don't have enough instances. When a character's gimmick is that they block attacks with magic bracelets, you're gonna have a bad time.
As far as J'onn goes? His shapeshifting comes in to play usually when stuff like that happens (as rare as it might be). iirc Aquaman once tried to stab him with his trident and J'onn just stretched with it like Reed would, for example.
Originally posted by Philosophía
Meh, Midnighter Karnak'd him. J'onn has good durability [not Superman, but not shit either, it's serviceable]. His healing and shapeshifting are ridiculous, so he's kind of like Wolverine in that his durability doesn't really matter -- but he is cursed with having to gets his shit kicked for shock value [and it's usually by very powerful guys, so eh].Off the top of my head, I can't remember significant cutting/edge attacks that are worth talking about with pure durability. The ones that happened, he generally uses shapeshift/elasticity or phases around them.
Easily. Even higher ones -- Wonder Woman gets a lot of shit mostly because she doesn't have fans, but Thor is atrocious. If you don't have pure invulnerability [i.e. like the Marvels, or Supergirl] or some sort of protective shield [like Surfer or Captain Atom and even then..] there's a very good chance you're a herald that has been pierced/cut at some point by randoms hit. Colossus lives for that shit.
Yeah. He's a far better tank than people credit him for.
Originally posted by -Pr-
iirc Aquaman once tried to stab him with his trident and J'onn just stretched with it like Reed would, for example.
I thought he simply went 100% intangible, if you're talking about this?
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWI think he's thinking about this one, even though it's not the trident iirc:
I thought he simply went 100% intangible, if you're talking about this?
https://i.imgur.com/UerszVl.jpg
Or maybe another. Either way...that's generally how J'onn would be portrayed against sharp stuff, imo.
