Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Its not like Yulaw has any experience fighting someone several magnitudes stronger and tougher than him either
No, but he has more impressive feats of fighting against skilled opponents who are at least around his level of physicality.
Spiderman defeated Bucky and Falcon who are clearly below him physically. Got defeated by Captain America. Almost lost against Vulture who isn't even superhuman. Lost the first time against Mysterio and only defeated him later on by using prep.
He has some pretty great strength and speed feats but he seems to have trouble applying these to a fight.
If a guy like Vulture can give him a fight then Yulaw is definitely not a sure win for him.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Spiderman defeated Bucky and Falcon who are clearly below him physically.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Got defeated by Captain America.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Lost the first time against Mysterio and only defeated him later on by using prep.
Originally posted by FrothByte
He has some pretty great strength and speed feats but he seems to have trouble applying these to a fight.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Almost lost against Vulture who isn't even superhuman.
Vulture isn't superhuman? WTF? That harness he is wearing isn't a fashion statement you know
He talons can carry off and fly with a car easy, using it to knock aside a motorcycle and a metal barrier like they aren't even there
https://gfycat.com/rashflimsyargentineruddyduck
Pete snags him by his leg via webbing, but the moment Peter attaches the webbing to a car and lets go he easily pulls the car away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RvnkawH_VA&t=57s
Despite him being already held down by two weblines, Peter can still swing via weblines on him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RvnkawH_VA&t=72s
Can take tasers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RvnkawH_VA&t=82s
Takes this drop out of harness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKMbta7uluU&t=177s
Again without harness, does this leap straight up without building any momentum.
https://gfycat.com/sanecandidhorseshoecrab
Those wings of his can slice through metal no problem
https://gfycat.com/DistantLoneFrigatebird
Or smash through concrete pillars and walls like nothing
https://gfycat.com/euphoricthoughtfuljenny
And both fast enough and tough enough to block and withstand bullets
https://gfycat.com/partialdelectableghostshrimp
Not even slowed down by Herman jumping onto his back
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11134/111340629/6608675-gif%20%2824%29.gif
His new harness in the climax had rocket boosters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nME6zIsz29o
Cuts through the side of plane with both wings and talons
https://gfycat.com/ThoroughYoungGazelle
https://gfycat.com/KnobbyScratchyAllensbigearedbat
Rips off the panel Peter attached them too
https://gfycat.com/selfassuredjovialblacklab
The wing trapped in jet turbine only damages the turbine
https://gfycat.com/HarmoniousSafeKilldeer
Holds up a metal crate with one talon while in an awkward position
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A95znmfX4Bw&t=12s
Knock aside debris with damaged wings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A95znmfX4Bw&t=95s
Carry off a large metal container despite damaged wings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A95znmfX4Bw&t=165s
You also conveniently forget this almost loss was after being in a goddamn plane crash. What's next? Cap and WS suck 'cause they got beat up by Tony Stark, and he's not superhuman?
Originally posted by FrothByte
If a guy like Vulture can give him a fight then Yulaw is definitely not a sure win for him.
Originally posted by FrothByte
No, but he has more impressive feats of fighting against skilled opponents who are at least around his level of physicality.
Heck, Gabe fought Yulaw with a gunshot wound on his arm
https://streamable.com/l7tg4
Every other times its ordinary humans, who can and have stood upto him
Going by your logic, Yulaw dies within seconds of fighting Spider Man because he was given trouble by two ordinary humans who dodged his attacks and fought back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJu8ZvXWiAU
He was tagged by a pickup truck he saw coming and incapacitated immediately
https://streamable.com/rrquo
The criminals he fought in the climax keep coming for more
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5NxekPmVvLA
He even failed to knock out the cops he hit here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQLa80EtCz4&t=123s
And again here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKDE-1QO2Bs&t=180s
Heck the cop is still conscious after he hit him with two motorcycles. And unlike Peter, he has zero reason to hold back. What a weakling eh?
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
They may be below SpiderMan, but Bucky has both strength, durability and skill comparable to Yulaw.
Falcon can fly, has more weapons, and has bulletproof wings. Which Yulaw doesn'tHe got defeated by Captain America using environment and his shield
Neither which Yulaw has.
Plus Cap by feats is stronger and more durable than Yulaw
So unless he has a convenient jetbridge nearby to drop on Peter's head, its an absolutely irrelevant point.Yeah losing against Mysterio is so bad.°~° 🙄 Especially when he has dozens of robotic drones that has several kinds of weapons and can generate high level illusions, with a convenient train track nearby. Nothing which Yulaw has. That's really relevant here?
And can Yulaw counter them unlike Peter?
Besides, what great prep did he have? Making a new suit to replace his damaged one? Increasing the taser web's voltage? Something which is his standard gear anyway?
Or what else did the suit have? Parachute? Wings? Again standard gear.
Besides, Peter did not have his usual suit when he fought Mysterio for the first time, another thing you conveniently forgotI guess that's how it is to you only
Vulture isn't superhuman? WTF? That harness he is wearing isn't a fashion statement you know
He talons can carry off and fly with a car easy, using it to knock aside a motorcycle and a metal barrier like they aren't even there
https://gfycat.com/rashflimsyargentineruddyduckPete snags him by his leg via webbing, but the moment Peter attaches the webbing to a car and lets go he easily pulls the car away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RvnkawH_VA&t=57sDespite him being already held down by two weblines, Peter can still swing via weblines on him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RvnkawH_VA&t=72sCan take tasers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RvnkawH_VA&t=82sTakes this drop out of harness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKMbta7uluU&t=177sAgain without harness, does this leap straight up without building any momentum.
https://gfycat.com/sanecandidhorseshoecrabThose wings of his can slice through metal no problem
https://gfycat.com/DistantLoneFrigatebirdOr smash through concrete pillars and walls like nothing
https://gfycat.com/euphoricthoughtfuljennyAnd both fast enough and tough enough to block and withstand bullets
https://gfycat.com/partialdelectableghostshrimpNot even slowed down by Herman jumping onto his back
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11134/111340629/6608675-gif%20%2824%29.gif
His new harness in the climax had rocket boosters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nME6zIsz29oCuts through the side of plane with both wings and talons
https://gfycat.com/ThoroughYoungGazelle
https://gfycat.com/KnobbyScratchyAllensbigearedbatRips off the panel Peter attached them too
https://gfycat.com/selfassuredjovialblacklabThe wing trapped in jet turbine only damages the turbine
https://gfycat.com/HarmoniousSafeKilldeerHolds up a metal crate with one talon while in an awkward position
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A95znmfX4Bw&t=12sKnock aside debris with damaged wings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A95znmfX4Bw&t=95sCarry off a large metal container despite damaged wings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A95znmfX4Bw&t=165sYou also conveniently forget this almost loss was after being in a goddamn plane crash. What's next? Cap and WS suck 'cause they got beat up by Tony Stark, and he's not superhuman?
Actually Peter giving Vulture a fight means Yulaw has no chance
Yulaw has one fight where he fought someone of his physicals, but with far less experience of using powers, and lost.
Heck, Gabe fought Yulaw with a gunshot wound on his arm
https://streamable.com/l7tg4Every other times its ordinary humans, who can and have stood upto him
Going by your logic, Yulaw dies within seconds of fighting Spider Man because he was given trouble by two ordinary humans who dodged his attacks and fought back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJu8ZvXWiAU
He was tagged by a pickup truck he saw coming and incapacitated immediately
https://streamable.com/rrquo
The criminals he fought in the climax keep coming for more
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5NxekPmVvLAHe even failed to knock out the cops he hit here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQLa80EtCz4&t=123s
And again here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKDE-1QO2Bs&t=180s
Heck the cop is still conscious after he hit him with two motorcycles. And unlike Peter, he has zero reason to hold back. What a weakling eh?
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With the exception of speed (where Yulaw has the advantage), you basically have to match Yulaw's high-ends with Peter's low-ends to make an argument for Yulaw winning here without him having some kind of bladed weapon or something.
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
The more and more you post, the more it seems like for you its less supporting Yulaw and more bashing Spider Man.
Whatever
Well yes, because I never claimed Yulaw wins. All I'm saying is that I don't think Spiderman wins this as easily as you guys think because I feel like you're focusing too much on singular feats of Spiderman and neglecting how he performs in fights.
It's not about bashing Spiderman but about being honest with his fight performances.
