If Thor is 100 then where are these guys?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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Having your bones as brittle as glass would render the most durable part of your body weak. It would, by definition, make you easier to knock out:

"Arghh! My [b]skull rings with the blow! Curse Hela for her meddling!

He went from being able a lot less durable (Had to roll to avoid having his ribs shattered) but still somewhat durable and strong:

To having his arm broken just from blocking Grendel's blow:

Both of Thor's arms were completely shattered, his rib cage was glass, his left leg was shattered etc. And the curse got stronger over time. Every time Thor moved his body, it took most of his willpower.

You think this had no impact on his durability or made him easier to knock out. Lol.

There's some basic things posters need to agree on to be able to carry on a discussion. There's no point if you can't agree that water is wet and fire is hot. [/B]

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https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/The-Avengers-1963/Issue-285?id=10924

Anyway, Thor has been koed by far less. Heck a helicopter falling stunned him once and don't forget the mortar.

It did:

"Though my body is racked with pain beyond reckoning!"

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I don't know how a massively weakened Thor outperforming Hercules negates that he's massively weakened. It adds more fuel to the fire that Thor is by some degree, the most powerful hero in Marvel, or at least was, for a very long time.

Hulk was the only one who came close for decades, and that was in h2h.

P.S. Because of the nature of the curse, Thor had to exert a lot of effort. It easily stands to reason that if he's not prepared for something like a sucker blow to the neck from Ares and his axe, he could be taken down easier.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It did:

"Though my body is racked with pain beyond reckoning!"

😂

I don't know how a massively weakened Thor outperforming Hercules negates that he's massively weakened. It adds more fuel to the fire that Thor is by some degree, the most powerful hero in Marvel, or at least was, for a very long time.

So let me get this straight, Thor>Hercules when he fought Zeus even when he was weakened (and easier to knock out) but not Ares? Or does Ares hits harder than Zeus now? Ares knocked out Thor in one hit and Zeus didn't.

Hulk was the only one who came close for decades, and that was in h2h.

P.S. Because of the nature of the curse, Thor had to exert a lot of effort. It easily stands to reason that if he's not prepared for something like a sucker blow to the neck from Ares and his axe, he could be taken down easier.

Its really cute you think that.

It doesn't matter what I think. It matters what happened on panel.

And Ares might have knocked Thor out, but he did so with surprise. Brittle bones Thor was in constant, unimaginable agony. Literally every bone in his body was shattered. He required concentration just to swing his hammer.

What I think is that getting hit from behind in that condition, even with much less force, would be more effective than a head-on attack.

The same brittle bones Thor withstood hits from the Midgard Serpent, similar to how he withstood crazy attacks from Zeus. Both hit magnitudes harder than Ares.

What even is your point here? That Thor was knocked out by Ares with a surprise attack? Who cares? You just posted scans of him tanking Zeus lmao. Unless a vs. thread involves someone sneaking up on a character. So again, who cares? What is the point of the Ares scan that you brought up?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It doesn't matter what I think. It matters what happened on panel.

😂

So Namor>Ares>Zeus, huh?

And Ares might have knocked Thor out, but he did so with surprise. Brittle bones Thor was in constant, unimaginable agony. Literally every bone in his body was shattered. He required concentration just to swing his hammer.

Guess Zeus with all his power couldn't match Ares with surprise. LMAO

What I think is that getting hit from behind in that condition, even with much less force, would be more effective than a head-on attack.

The same brittle bones Thor withstood hits from the Midgard Serpent, similar to how he withstood crazy attacks from Zeus. Both hit magnitudes harder than Ares.

Not by your logic.

What even is your point here? That Thor was knocked out by Ares with a surprise attack? Who cares? You just posted scans of him tanking Zeus lmao. Unless a vs. thread involves someone sneaking up on a character. So again, who cares? What is the point of the Ares scan that you brought up?

My point is that Thor koing Hulk from behind is as relevant as Ares knocking out Thor from behind. Read up kid.

Originally posted by abhilegend
My point is that Thor koing Hulk from behind is as relevant as Ares knocking out Thor from behind. Read up kid.

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Wolverine one-shotted Spider-Man (without claws) from behind.

Yet nobody - not even the most hardcore Wolverine fanboys - has ever argued that clawless Logan one-shots him in an actual fight.

The very nature of cheapshots in comics allows for easier knockouts... Captain Marvel "versus" Superman, Joker "versus" Batman, Pentagon Iron Man "versus" She-Hulk, the list goes on.

This was the most convoluted way to prove that "sucker shots don't mean much" I've probably ever seen, lmao.

Carver would have ripped Rage's point apart in one elegant post.

Carver would go straight in the kitchen and sucker shot his mom to check.

I was naturally skeptical about the showings Abhil mentioned and the conversation became side-tracked, with me trying to highlight why they might not be particularly relevant showings.

And....Abhiligend still thinks that Thor having brittle bones has no impact on his ability to withstand damage.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
https://i.imgur.com/evkwNY4.jpg
"...As brittle as that of an old woman's."

Thor during that era was walking around weakened, in constant agony, with most of his bones being broken and held together by armour.

The fact that he has all the feats he has during this era is a testament to his ridiculous damage soak and will-power. The fact that you'd post a showing from this era against him is a testament to your stupidity.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That didn't mean he was easier to knock out. .

Originally posted by Philosophía
Carver would go straight in the kitchen and sucker shot his mom to check.

Then he would wrap her around tin foil...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Then he would wrap her around tin foil...

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I was naturally skeptical about the showings Abhil mentioned and the conversation became side-tracked, with me trying to highlight why they might not be particularly relevant showings.

And....Abhiligend still thinks that Thor having brittle bones has no impact on his ability to withstand damage.

Thor as of this moment does not have Sky Father level feats. He still needs more time. His past battles against Mangog may have actually been better than the latest one’s.

Originally posted by Stoic
Is this overall power, or just strength? Thor is a Sky Father normally these days, is this Classic Thor? He isn't amped these days either, he's just above what he was. Starlin's vision of Thanos placed him between Sky Father, and Galactus. I like using Starlin's Thanos, because it was his creation. The other writers stepped in and Fan-Tasized the character. Marvel simply didn't allow the last Thanos story to be the mainstream canon on him.

Superman -60
Savage Hulk-61
WBH-61.5
UI Goku- over 9000 but in the negatives
Saitama-one punches himself masturbating so furiously to Thors power level without mjolnir.
World Forger-99.9
Squirrel Girl-100.0000009

Originally posted by Stoic
Is this overall power, or just strength? Thor is a Sky Father normally these days, is this Classic Thor? He isn't amped these days either, he's just above what he was. Starlin's vision of Thanos placed him between Sky Father, and Galactus. I like using Starlin's Thanos, because it was his creation. The other writers stepped in and Fan-Tasized the character. Marvel simply didn't allow the last Thanos story to be the mainstream canon on him.