!!!The Official Dragon Ball vs. Comics Thread!!!

Started by abhilegend298 pages

Originally posted by Galan007
Beerus can handle universe-busting energy casually(as seen when he negated the super dense energy ball.)

As for speed: this isn't a race from point A to point B. It's a battle... And the Guardians certainly don't have the combat speed feats to make me think they could ever lay a finger on Beerus. He'd Hakai them all in rapid succession.


I doubt "hakai" would work on Guardians and yes Beerus speed is an issue but combined group of Guardians is a force to be reckoned with.

Most likely Beerus beats a few of them before they crush him like they did with the Madgod sector 3600 who literally became one with universe, mind you.

The Guardians aren't true immortals(ala Zamasu), so I don't see why Hakai wouldn't work..?

Hasn't Hakai energy failed on Frieza and Vegeta overpowered it against Toppo?

How big is the speed difference to you guys?

Is Beerus fast enough to make Guardians practically statues?

If that's how it is then it doesn't matter how many Guardians there are. 1 statue or 1 million, you have all the time in the world.

Guardians don't have any particular speed feats as per my knowledge. They have traversed through a black hole without any problem so there's that.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hasn't Hakai energy failed on Frieza and Vegeta overpowered it against Toppo?
That was Toppo, who is just a GoD candidate. Aside from the fact that he isn't on Beerus's level, we don't even know if he is capable of preforming true Hakais, like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9soF4ZyzGUI&t=2m4s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R_d_kf-Ubc&t=0m58s

He was basically just spamming energy balls composed of some level of Destruction energy at Freeza/Vegeta... Which obviously isn't the same as what Beerus did in the above clips.

It's also possible that Toppo may have been holding back the full potency of his Hakais, given that killing opponents was against the ToP rules.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
How big is the speed difference to you guys?
Should be pretty much insurmountable, imo... Especially when you factor in Beerus's quasi-UI.

Not sure if it's already been talked about here, but pretty ridiculous feat for Vegeta;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlRaIyI8KQs

Vegeta broke and basically destroyed the Room of Spirit and Time. Twice. By merely powering up. In addition to being a feat that damages space-time, despite that dimension only being as big as Earth apparently (or at least, being of questionable size)

Originally posted by Galan007
That was Toppo, who is just a GoD candidate. Aside from the fact that he isn't on Beerus's level, we don't even know if he is capable of preforming true Hakais, like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9soF4ZyzGUI&t=2m4s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R_d_kf-Ubc&t=0m58s

He was basically just spamming energy balls composed of some level of Destruction energy at Freeza/Vegeta... Which obviously isn't the same as what Beerus did in the above clips.

It's also possible that Toppo may have been holding back the full potency of his Hakais, given that killing opponents was against the ToP rules.


But again didn't Frieza overpowered Sidrah hakai energy? Or was that just in anime?

Originally posted by abhilegend
I doubt "hakai" would work on Guardians and yes Beerus speed is an issue but combined group of Guardians is a force to be reckoned with.

Most likely Beerus beats a few of them before they crush him like they did with the Madgod sector 3600 who literally became one with universe, mind you.

Not to mention, a group of rank faceless GL mooks lead by Kilowog contained the Mad God.

And he was an entire sector of space, and one sector can cover multiple galaxies.

My point being, lesser GL's did this. Guardians should be much stronger.

Strongest comic character that can replicate this?

Beerus and Champa fight and easily destroy several planets by the side-effects of their kicks:

Originally posted by abhilegend
But again didn't Frieza overpowered Sidrah hakai energy? Or was that just in anime?

Yes, it was an anime only event.

In fact, manga Toppo never used "destruction energy" at all. Nor did a God of Destruction for that matter. They pointed their hand, and you ceased to exist, simple as that.

Manga Goku learned to do it, against fused Zamasu (He failed, but was more then halfway through erasing him)

Originally posted by abhilegend
But again didn't Frieza overpowered Sidrah hakai energy? Or was that just in anime?
Golden Freeza did that in the anime with a great deal of effort, yeah. But again, that was an extremely low level of Destruction energy by comparison. It failed to kill base Goku, then Beerus showed up and casually blew it away(with his breath, lol.)

Originally posted by One Big Mob
https://www.mangareader.net/dragon-ball-super/1

I downloaded the anime through really gay means and lost the original link. If Abhi watched the whole thing he's probably got a better way.

Thanks mate,

Abhi, do you have a better way?

Exactly, it depends on the power level of beings rather than killing absolutely everyone. Green Lantern energy has stopped entropy before and collective Oan power was actually stronger than Entropy (Parallax killed Time Trapper) and a few Green Lanterns overpowered Krona when he was avatar of Entropy.

No reason to think Guardians can't do the same for Hakai.

And during his fight with Goku, Beerus casually negated the SDEB, which had the power to destroy the universe.

So I guess if the Guardians started spamming universal+ blasts at Beerus they might be able to overwhelm him...maybe? But again, there's still Beerus's speed/UI to consider.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Thanks mate,

Abhi, do you have a better way?

What's wrong with Crunchyroll?

Originally posted by cdtm
What's wrong with Crunchyroll?

Originally posted by Galan007
And during his fight with Goku, Beerus casually negated the SDEB, which had the power to destroy the universe.

So I guess if the Guardians started spamming universal+ blasts at Beerus they might be able to overwhelm him...maybe? But again, there's still Beerus's speed/UI to consider.

The SDEB spanned all the way to the kaioshin realm too, meaning it wasn't just gonna blow the mortal universe, but otherworld and the kaioshin realm .... Much bigger than a simple universe.......and he was using like 0.0001% or less of his power there, judging by how many times Goku has powered up prior to his MUI whole still not surpassing him yet

Originally posted by Astner

That's 9anime and torrenting. Crunchyroll is the one that has the licenses, and gives shitty quality ad supported anime for free with a paid subscription for better quality vids.

Its pretty awful, but one of the few legal options.