Sentry(MERGED) VERSUS Knull (PREDICTIONS)2021

Originally posted by tkitna

The silly Space Worm was written in because the Wasp was a second away from being killed. A lot of people like to bring up the Space Worm because of how ridiculous the writers solution was to get Sentry out of the story for awhile. Sure, a giant worm can incapacitate a character that can transport and has molecular manipilation.

The Space Worm incident was such a weird moment on so many levels, because it was written by the same writer (Rick Remender), who wrote the following other scenes:

- He had Sentry casually catch the bullet of a highly powered Skrull sniper rifle. To my knowledge bullets fired by regular rifles can't even reach 4 miles and that Skrull sniper rifle bullet was still traveling in a straight line after those 4 miles. That should tell you something about the speed of that bullet relative to Sentrys speed.

- After catching the bullet and spotting Punisher, Sentry appears behind Punisher, before Punisher can finish a thought.

- In the Uncanny Avengers book, Wolverine hears a sonic boom hundreds of miles away and before he can even warn his teammates, Sentry is already there and has grabbed Thor.

- And later on Sentry takes off more than fast enough carrying a planet sized object (Exitars dead body).

(And there are other instances, where Sentry is fast to a point, where the worm should have been frozen in time for him. But in such a properly written comic, both Wasp and Thor would have been dead. But obviously you can't have that. And with such a powerful character, you quickly end up writing yourself into a corner.)

In a properly written comic, Sentry could have circled the world in the time it took him to realize that there is something big behind him, turn around and look up, say "Oh." and get swallowed.

Originally posted by Galan007

What about the Fat Cobra showing?

What about it?

Originally posted by tkitna
Outright defeats? This is why nobody can talk to you on these boards. For the examples I listed-

Nobody on these boards thinks that Hammond Human Torch can beat the Sentry. Its laughable to even entertain that thought. The writer had to get rid of Sentry so that the story could progress and to show the Invaders as some kind of threat.

So your defence is that Hammond didn't overload Sentry because nobody believes it?

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That's not writing Sentry out of story, that's an outright defeat. Sentry ran away from Hammond. Is it a low showing? Yes. But you're citing a showing where the writer had human torch overload Sentry to tell how Sentry had to be written off because he was too powerful?

Are you on meds? Because this is ****ing idiotic.

Hell, in the same series they show Namor punch Sentry once and the Sentry wasnt involved for several panels afterwards. The same Namor that couldnt mount one single offensive attack against him during another encounter.

Wow, who knew that the comic characters vary wildly? Your proof is that Namor didn't one punch Sentry again in another comic several years later?

Face it, the writer had to get rid of Sentry because he could easily solo the entire Invaders team. It happened in comics numerous times.

Except that the writer gave Sentry multiple low showings when individual characters beat him. You are equating it as Sentry being too powerful?

Are you from bizarro world?

Defeated? Cloc overwhelmed him with emotions because Iron Man was a panel away from dying.

The Sentry gets written out of stories way to often due to his powerset. Its just the facts.

Sure, if you are an idiot and think that Human Torch overloading Sentry means Sentry was too powerful.

Talk about delusions.

Originally posted by tkitna
So your basically saying that writers cant handle a character with more than one power? You might be right. Sentry seems to be proof of this since he has so many different powers at a writers disposal. He being written out of so many stories actually proves your above statement. It really is pretty much the writers laziness and lack of creativity that makes it so much easier to just write him out.

No, they can. But Sentry is barely a character now, he is more like a weird hodgepodge of contradictory ideas. That's why Hawkman was banned from stories for a decade, not because he was too powerful.

Is this your rationale now?

Originally posted by Enzeru
The Space Worm incident was such a weird moment on so many levels, because it was written by the same writer (Rick Remender), who wrote the following other scenes:

- He had Sentry casually catch the bullet of a highly powered Skrull sniper rifle. To my knowledge bullets fired by regular rifles can't even reach 4 miles and that Skrull sniper rifle bullet was still traveling in a straight line after those 4 miles. That should tell you something about the speed of that bullet relative to Sentrys speed.

- After catching the bullet and spotting Punisher, Sentry appears behind Punisher, before Punisher can finish a thought.

- In the Uncanny Avengers book, Wolverine hears a sonic boom hundreds of miles away and before he can even warn his teammates, Sentry is already there and has grabbed Thor.

- And later on Sentry takes off more than fast enough carrying a planet sized object (Exitars dead body).

(And there are other instances, where Sentry is fast to a point, where the worm should have been frozen in time for him. But in such a properly written comic, both Wasp and Thor would have been dead. But obviously you can't have that. And with such a powerful character, you quickly end up writing yourself into a corner.)

In a properly written comic, Sentry could have circled the world in the time it took him to realize that there is something big behind him, turn around and look up, say "Oh." and get swallowed.

😂

Oh you Sentry fanboys. Always ready with another rationale as to why Sentry isn't invincible "The writer was in a corner, otherwise Sentry would have soloed everyone at the same time".

Always good for a chuckle.

But really guys, Hawkman is more powerful than Superman because Grant Morrison was allowed to use Superman in JLA but barred from using Hawkman.

Seriously.

Also Sentry was written off ass up here.

Too powerful for stories. No really.

Sentry was also among the heroes who was stomped by C.A.P... And then C.A.P. was one-shotted by Reed's Anti-Galactus suit.

Not a terrible showing, I suppose, but still far from that cosmic realm of power that some think he constantly operates at.

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

Oh you Sentry fanboys. Always ready with another rationale as to why Sentry isn't invincible "The writer was in a corner, otherwise Sentry would have soloed everyone at the same time".

Always good for a chuckle.

lol acting like you supe fanboys shit don’t stink..

Enzeru has a point.
1. It took five whole issues to join the fight in wwh
2. He fly to space mid battle during the skrull invasion because the void scared him
3. Where was he when the dark avengers got their asse$ handed to them in their fight with Thor?

Good job on derailing the thread tho jackas$

Originally posted by Booya_69
lol acting like you supe fanboys shit don’t stink..

Enzeru has a point.
1. It took five whole issues to join the fight in wwh
2. He fly to space mid battle during the skrull invasion because the void scared him
3. Where was he when the dark avengers got their asse$ handed to them in their fight with Thor?

Good job on derailing the thread tho jackas$

And then Hulk beats the shit out of him.

Yes, Secret Invasion can be said to have written him out.

Even Ares wasn't there when Thor fought Bor. He must be too powerful too.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So your defence is that Hammond didn't overload Sentry because nobody believes it?

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That's not writing Sentry out of story, that's an outright defeat. Sentry ran away from Hammond. Is it a low showing? Yes. But you're citing a showing where the writer had human torch overload Sentry to tell how Sentry had to be written off because he was too powerful?

Overloaded him? He psyched him out by taking advantage of his mental state and having him believe he was overloading him. Again, a silly and easy way to write him out. A properly written Sentry would tear Hammonds android body apart in a mere second.

Wow, who knew that the comic characters vary wildly? Your proof is that Namor didn't one punch Sentry again in another comic several years later?

Again, its lazy writing just to get Sentry out of the picture. Sentry is so far above Namor that its comical. The writer showed Namor punch him and then we dont see Sentry again for eons. No explanation. No pictures depicting what happened. Just gone. Nobody believes he one shotted or KO'd Sentry, so what happened to him? Had to get rid of him somehow so they just quit showing him altogether. Lol.

Except that the writer gave Sentry multiple low showings when individual characters beat him. You are equating it as Sentry being too powerful?

And a bunch of those low showings are due to him being so powerful that they struggle to find believable ways for him to fit in certain storylines. Like the Namor example. Sentry has taken a punch from the Thing and it didnt even move or phase him, but we are to believe that Namor BFR'd or even KO'd him? A character that was laughing and casually talking while allowing WWH to punch him, struggles with Namor? See how silly that is? A guy that went head to head with Photon? Lol

Are you from bizarro world? Where did I say Iron man defeated him?

You said my examples were outright defeats. You didnt specify which ones you were using so I took it you were including all of them.

Sure, if you are an idiot and think that Human Torch overloading Sentry means Sentry was too powerful.

😂 You still believe that dont you? Hammond overloading a character that couldnt even kill himself when throwing himself in the sun. A character that can absorb energy from anywhere. A character that overloaded the Absorbing Man. A character who was destroying planets with his energy output. All of that and we are to believe he struggled with Hammond Human Torch? Come on man.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Also Sentry was written off ass up here.

Too powerful for stories. No really.

😆 Now your using a comedy satire to prove your point?

Originally posted by Galan007
Sentry was also among the heroes who was stomped by C.A.P... And then C.A.P. was one-shotted by Reed's Anti-Galactus suit.

Not a terrible showing, I suppose, but still far from that cosmic realm of power that some think he constantly operates at.

Thats not a low showing in my opinion. The CAP robot was pretty legit. I mean it took another Reed construction to defeat it. A construction that was meant to go toe to toe with Galactus.

Originally posted by tkitna
Overloaded him? He psyched him out by taking advantage of his mental state and having him believe he was overloading him. Again, a silly and easy way to write him out. A properly written Sentry would tear Hammonds android body apart in a mere second.

What psych out? Where is that stated in the comic?

Again, its lazy writing just to get Sentry out of the picture. Sentry is so far above Namor that its comical. The writer showed Namor punch him and then we dont see Sentry again for eons. No explanation. No pictures depicting what happened. Just gone. Nobody believes he one shotted or KO'd Sentry, so what happened to him? Had to get rid of him somehow so they just quit showing him altogether. Lol.

Yeah, that's what a low showing is. Are you new to comics? It's not a way to write him out, it's just a low showing.

Why would I believe he wasn't oneshotted? For what purpose?

And a bunch of those low showings are due to him being so powerful that they struggle to find believable ways for him to fit in certain storylines. Like the Namor example. Sentry has taken a punch from the Thing and it didnt even move or phase him, but we are to believe that Namor BFR'd or even KO'd him? A character that was laughing and casually talking while allowing WWH to punch him, struggles with Namor? See how silly that is? A guy that went head to head with Photon? Lol

Yes, that's what a low showing is. Are you new to comics?

You said my examples were outright defeats. You didnt specify which ones you were using so I took it you were including all of them.

ermm

😂 You still believe that dont you? Hammond overloading a character that couldnt even kill himself when throwing himself in the sun. A character that can absorb energy from anywhere. A character that overloaded the Absorbing Man. A character who was destroying planets with his energy output. All of that and we are to believe he struggled with Hammond Human Torch? Come on man.

Yes, apparently the concept of a low showing is new to sentry fans.

Originally posted by tkitna
😆 Now your using a comedy satire to prove your point?

Originally posted by abhilegend
What psych out? Where is that stated in the comic?

Dude, did you read the panels you posted. There isnt one instance where the Sentry was in pain or hurt. The Torch said he would overload him with fire (LOL. a character that has fought beings a million times more powerful than Hammond) and the Sentry actually believed him a flew away just incase he lost control. You know what would happened if he lost control? Again, to powerful.

Yeah, that's what a low showing is. Are you new to comics? It's not a way to write him out, it's just a low showing.

The low showings are caused by lame attempts of the writers trying to write him out so the stories can progress.

Why would I believe he wasn't oneshotted? For what purpose?

Because Namor is incapable of doing it. If you truly believe he can, your even dumber than you come off as.

Originally posted by Galan007
What about the Fat Cobra showing?

I honestly dont know enough about Fat Cobra to judge that feat. I'm not sure what he's truly capable of. I will say that story was crap though as the Sentry was shown taking a hammer shot to the head and numerous other hits from him, but yet the Wasp, Black Panther, and Shuri were hurting him with kicks and stingers. Lol. Based on that, I dont know if Fat Cobras feat was legit or not. Has he ever done anything on that level before?

Originally posted by tkitna
I honestly dont know enough about Fat Cobra to judge that feat. I'm not sure what he's truly capable of. I will say that story was crap though as the Sentry was shown taking a hammer shot to the head and numerous other hits from him, but yet the Wasp, Black Panther, and Shuri were hurting him with kicks and stingers. Lol. Based on that, I dont know if Fat Cobras feat was legit or not. Has he ever done anything on that level before?

He's a compatriot of Iron Fist. That should tell you all you need to know about his power levels lol.

Okoye was choking him out with her spear in that story as well.

In the Cancerverse, Susan Storm was able to hide an entire planet from him for days,then when he found them, she was able to enact a planetary shield against him and the entire Cancerverse.

Originally posted by tkitna
Dude, did you read the panels you posted. There isnt one instance where the Sentry was in pain or hurt. The Torch said he would overload him with fire (LOL. a character that has fought beings a million times more powerful than Hammond) and the Sentry actually believed him a flew away just incase he lost control. You know what would happened if he lost control? Again, to powerful.

Yes, I did. Sentry was overpowered and he fled from the fight. Is there more to it? Not unless there is some scan I'm missing.

Yeah, that's what a low showing is. Read about Hulk vs a snake.

The low showings are caused by lame attempts of the writers trying to write him out so the stories can progress.

Good, now you understand what a low showing is. That's a progress.

Because Namor is incapable of doing it. If you truly believe he can, your even dumber than you come off as.

And you are an idiot if you think the writer cared about that. Namor oneshotted Sentry, in that book. Deal with it.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Okoye was choking him out with her spear in that story as well.

That should tell you all you need to know about the writing in that book.

Originally posted by abhilegend

And you are an idiot if you think the writer cared about that. Namor oneshotted Sentry, in that book. Deal with it.

Show me where that happened? Show me a Sentry lying on the ground KO'd after being punched by Namor.