Hunter Biden took $3.5 million from Russians

Originally posted by Newjak
Notably Hunter's more than questionable income sources have never had a direct link back to Joe and the white house except for name.

In the Burisma case, that's not true. Biden, as VP, had direct actions involved in the corruption. Biden is no different than the Russian Oligarchical mafia. Biden admitted this on camera and it quietly made the rounds on the internet - no one really covered it. It should have been the biggest news in the entire world for weeks. It should have been the most scandalous thing to happen when it broke especially considering how much heat and the eventual impeachment of Trump over it - just for Trump to be right about everything. Does not look good on the MSM.

But for the other situations, I think you're correct.

I'm not familiar with every single one of Hunter's "adventures."

Originally posted by Newjak
I think part of the issue here is there is always a false equivalency placed on Hunter compared to say Ivanka or Don Jr.

Notably Hunter's more than questionable income sources have never had a direct link back to Joe and the white house except for name.

While the Trump's almost have neon signs of connectivity between them. And their organizations.

Heck Ivanka has had some pretty shady benefits come from China since her Dad took office. The difference is she is actually a white house advisor to the president.

Trump has made the Presidency a family business, Ivanka is an advisor and it's bring-your-daughter-to-work-day seemingly every day, she goes to official state meetings with her father. Her husband Jared is seemingly in charge of fixing everything in America. Donnie Jr isn't an official advisor but he might as well be.

Going to be odd if Biden has Hunter as an "advisor", I don't agree with it as the President shouldn't be enlisting family members and I seriously hope Biden keeps Hunter and any other family members barring his wife far away, but Trump and Trumpers have made this behavior okay.

Originally posted by dadudemon
In the Burisma case, that's not true. Biden, as VP, had direct actions involved in the corruption. Biden is no different than the Russian Oligarchical mafia. Biden admitted this on camera and it quietly made the rounds on the internet - no one really covered it. It should have been the biggest news in the entire world for weeks. It should have been the most scandalous thing to happen when it broke especially considering how much heat and the eventual impeachment of Trump over it - just for Trump to be right about everything. Does not look good on the MSM.

But for the other situations, I think you're correct.

I'm not familiar with every single one of Hunter's "adventures."

Other then Hunter being on the board Joe never had any direct ties to Burisma nor did he directly do anything to benefit Burisma.

Also I'm assuming you're talking about the Ukrainian prosecutor Biden got fired. That has already been looked into. The problem is the overwhelming majority of groups involved in this wanted that prosecutor gone because that prosecutor wasn't doing anything about corruption.

This included various European ally nations and this was even bipartisan as a number Republicans also thought the prosecutor needed to be removed to handle corruption better in Ukraine.

You can also tell that this narrative is kind of rubbish because if there was a bunch of damning evidence Trump and Rudy would have dropped it on us by now.

Originally posted by Robtard
Trump has made the Presidency a family business, Ivanka is an advisor and it's bring-your-daughter-to-work-day seemingly every day, she goes to official state meetings with her father. Her husband Jared is seemingly in charge of fixing everything in America. Donnie Jr isn't an official advisor but he might as well be.

Going to be odd if Biden has Hunter as an "advisor", I don't agree with it as the President shouldn't be enlisting family members and I seriously hope Biden keeps Hunter and any other family members barring his wife far away, but Trump and Trumpers have made this behavior okay.

Of course Trump is a conman and he has been scamming money since he started in office.

Originally posted by Newjak
Sorry it took me so long to reply. Busy couple of days.

Other then Hunter being on the board Joe never had any direct ties to Burisma nor did he directly do anything to benefit Burisma.

Also I'm assuming you're talking about the Ukrainian prosecutor Biden got fired. That has already been looked into. The problem is the overwhelming majority of groups involved in this wanted that prosecutor gone because that prosecutor wasn't doing anything about corruption.

This included various European ally nations and this was even bipartisan as a number Republicans also thought the prosecutor needed to be removed to handle corruption better in Ukraine.

You can also tell that this narrative is kind of rubbish because if there was a bunch of damning evidence Trump and Rudy would have dropped it on us by now.

Change Hunters name to Eric or Don Jr, Andy it would have a completely different option.

You forgot he was banging his dead brothers wife, until he broke up with her and broke her heart.

Burisma is just one incident, take a peek over at the wonderous china deals he got as well..........If you want to hold Trumps accountable don't tap dance around the obvious Biden family, hell they set the standard for the Trumps to step up to🙂

More like Democratic privilege.

Originally posted by Newjak
Other then Hunter being on the board Joe never had any direct ties to Burisma nor did he directly do anything to benefit Burisma.

This is not true at all. Take a look at the actual facts of the case.

Here's what ACTUALLY happened:

"(They gave money) for the fact that the special anti-corruption prosecutor Nazar Kholodnitsky will close the case of the infamous Burisma company, which was owned by oligarch Nikolai Zlochevsky, and whose supervisory board was the son of Joe Biden, a former US vice president and, in the near future, a probable candidate for US presidents from the Democratic Party, "the journalist wrote.

https://www.obozrevatel.com/crime/rekordnaya-vzyatka-v-6-mln-poyavilis-podrobnosti-gromkogo-zaderzhaniya.htm

Burisma (the company Biden's son worked for) was being investigated. The founder of Burisma was being actively investigated for corruption and illegal activities, as well. The prosecutor, Shokin, suspected that Burisma's founder, Zlochevsky, had appointed Biden Jr. to the board to protect himself from that investigation. Also, Giulliani's conversation with Shokin occurred before Biden announced his candidacy: Jan 2019.

Here's the timeline around the Biden's and the Ukrainian controversy:

April 15, 2014: Burisma sends Hunter Biden's business partner, Devon Archer, $112,000.

April 16, 2014: Archer visits Vice President Biden at the White House.

April 21, 2014: Vice President Biden arrives in Ukraine bearing millions in aid for the Ukraine energy industry.

May 12, 2014: Hunter Biden joins Burisma's board.

February 2015: Ukrainian authorities seize the property of Burisma's CEO and go after unpaid taxes.

March 2016: Biden demands that Ukraine's top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, be fired, and threatens to hold up $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...255
.html

Amazing that you see so many left-leaning news sources performing mental gymnastics to try and justify Biden's actions. Bottom line is, taken in a vacuum, Biden openly admitted and bragged about holding up aid from Ukraine until they fired a prosecutor. What that prosecutor was investigating at the time is irrelevant to this point. But the fact that the prosecutor that was to be fired was investigating Joe Biden's son's company, Burisma, is incredibly damning no matter what left-leaning mainstream media sources try to state.

But let's dig more into the reasons around it.

As soon as Shokin was fired and replaced, his replacement, Lutsenko, quickly wrapped up the investigation into Burisma and Burisma's founder and "found no wrong doing." Interesting considering that Burisma's founder had his assets seized just a year prior due to corruption and tax evasion.

https://nypost.com/2019/10/02/ex-uk...m-probe-report/

Ukraine also formally opened a criminal investigation into the firing of Shokin in Feb 2020, as well. Nothing will come of it. They only did it because of the controversy in the news AFTER the impeachment for Trump didn't go anywhere (Ukrainian politicians are smart). Had Trump been removed, they would not have opened the investigation.

Here is a follow-up summary of all of the Biden's corruption issues, not just the Burisma case:

In early 2015 former Deputy Chief of Mission at the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv, Ukraine, George Kent raised concerns to officials in Vice President Joe Biden’s office about the perception of a conflict of interest with respect to Hunter Biden’s role on Burisma’s board. Kent’s concerns went unaddressed and in September 2016, he emphasized in an email to his colleagues, “Furthermore, the presence of Hunter Biden on the Burisma board was very awkward for all U.S. officials pushing an anticorruption agenda in Ukraine.”

In October 2015, senior State Department official Amos Hochstein raised concerns with Vice President Biden, as well as with Hunter Biden, that Hunter Biden’s position on Burisma’s board enabled Russian disinformation efforts and risked undermining U.S. policy in Ukraine.

Hunter Biden was serving on Burisma’s board (supposedly consulting on corporate governance and transparency) when Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevsky allegedly paid a $7 million bribe to officials serving under Ukraine’s prosecutor general, Vitaly Yarema, to “shut the case against Zlochevsky.” George Kent testified that this bribe occurred in December 2014 (seven months after Hunter Biden joined Burisma’s board), and, after learning about it, he and the resident legal adviser reported this allegation to the FBI.

In addition to the over four million dollars paid by Burisma to Hunter Biden and his business partner, Devon Archer, for membership on the board, Hunter, his family, and Archer received millions of dollars from foreign nationals with questionable backgrounds.

Devon Archer received $142,300 from Kenges Rakishev of Kazakhstan, purportedly for a car, the same day Vice President Joe Biden appeared with Ukrainian Prime Minister Arsemy Yasenyuk and addressed Ukrainian legislators in Kyiv regarding Russia’s actions in Crimea.

Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina. Ms. Baturina is the wife (widow) of the former mayor of Moscow.
Hunter Biden had business associations with Ye Jianming, Gongwen Dong, and other Chinese nationals linked to the Communist government and People’s Liberation Army. Those associations resulted in millions of dollars in questionable transactions.

Hunter Biden opened a bank account with Gongwen Dong that financed a $100,000 global spending spree with James Biden and Sara Biden.
Hunter Biden also moved millions of dollars from his law firm to James Biden’s and Sara Biden’s firm. Upon being questioned about the transaction, Sara Biden refused to provide supporting documentation and information to more clearly explain the activity. The bank subsequently closed the account.

Hunter Biden paid nonresident women who were nationals of Russia or other Eastern European countries and who appear to be linked to an “Eastern European prostitution or human trafficking ring.”

You can also tell that this narrative is kind of rubbish because if there was a bunch of damning evidence Trump and Rudy would have dropped it on us by now.

And here is the full report, with citations and hard evidence of all positions including very damning evidence that there is no way around Joe Biden denying he was directly involved in this corruption:

https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Ukraine%20Report_FINAL.pdf

Originally posted by Robtard
Probably because you people accused and condemned Obama of acts he never did. eg Trying to stay in power longer, talking of suspending the election.

Maybe look in the mirror for once.

Originally posted by Blakemore
On the other hand, Obama was a big con and just continued Bush's policies. At least on paper,it looked like he ended global terrorism and expanded healthcarre, but we all know that's not the case.

At this point it's just easier to list those in politics that aren't cons. Here is a comprehensive list:

Originally posted by Surtur
At this point it's just easier to list those in politics that aren't cons. Here is a comprehensive list:

Originally posted by dadudemon
This is not true at all. Take a look at the actual facts of the case.

Here's what ACTUALLY happened:

"(They gave money) for the fact that the special anti-corruption prosecutor Nazar Kholodnitsky will close the case of the infamous Burisma company, which was owned by oligarch Nikolai Zlochevsky, and whose supervisory board was the son of Joe Biden, a former US vice president and, in the near future, a probable candidate for US presidents from the Democratic Party, "the journalist wrote.

https://www.obozrevatel.com/crime/rekordnaya-vzyatka-v-6-mln-poyavilis-podrobnosti-gromkogo-zaderzhaniya.htm

Burisma (the company Biden's son worked for) was being investigated. The founder of Burisma was being actively investigated for corruption and illegal activities, as well. The prosecutor, Shokin, suspected that Burisma's founder, Zlochevsky, had appointed Biden Jr. to the board to protect himself from that investigation. Also, Giulliani's conversation with Shokin occurred before Biden announced his candidacy: Jan 2019.

Here's the timeline around the Biden's and the Ukrainian controversy:

April 15, 2014: Burisma sends Hunter Biden's business partner, Devon Archer, $112,000.

April 16, 2014: Archer visits Vice President Biden at the White House.

April 21, 2014: Vice President Biden arrives in Ukraine bearing millions in aid for the Ukraine energy industry.

May 12, 2014: Hunter Biden joins Burisma's board.

February 2015: Ukrainian authorities seize the property of Burisma's CEO and go after unpaid taxes.

March 2016: Biden demands that Ukraine's top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, be fired, and threatens to hold up $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...255
.html

Amazing that you see so many left-leaning news sources performing mental gymnastics to try and justify Biden's actions. Bottom line is, taken in a vacuum, Biden openly admitted and bragged about holding up aid from Ukraine until they fired a prosecutor. What that prosecutor was investigating at the time is irrelevant to this point. But the fact that the prosecutor that was to be fired was investigating Joe Biden's son's company, Burisma, is incredibly damning no matter what left-leaning mainstream media sources try to state.

But let's dig more into the reasons around it.

As soon as Shokin was fired and replaced, his replacement, Lutsenko, quickly wrapped up the investigation into Burisma and Burisma's founder and "found no wrong doing." Interesting considering that Burisma's founder had his assets seized just a year prior due to corruption and tax evasion.

https://nypost.com/2019/10/02/ex-uk...m-probe-report/

Ukraine also formally opened a criminal investigation into the firing of Shokin in Feb 2020, as well. Nothing will come of it. They only did it because of the controversy in the news AFTER the impeachment for Trump didn't go anywhere (Ukrainian politicians are smart). Had Trump been removed, they would not have opened the investigation.

Here is a follow-up summary of all of the Biden's corruption issues, not just the Burisma case:

In early 2015 former Deputy Chief of Mission at the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv, Ukraine, George Kent raised concerns to officials in Vice President Joe Biden’s office about the perception of a conflict of interest with respect to Hunter Biden’s role on Burisma’s board. Kent’s concerns went unaddressed and in September 2016, he emphasized in an email to his colleagues, “Furthermore, the presence of Hunter Biden on the Burisma board was very awkward for all U.S. officials pushing an anticorruption agenda in Ukraine.”

In October 2015, senior State Department official Amos Hochstein raised concerns with Vice President Biden, as well as with Hunter Biden, that Hunter Biden’s position on Burisma’s board enabled Russian disinformation efforts and risked undermining U.S. policy in Ukraine.

Hunter Biden was serving on Burisma’s board (supposedly consulting on corporate governance and transparency) when Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevsky allegedly paid a $7 million bribe to officials serving under Ukraine’s prosecutor general, Vitaly Yarema, to “shut the case against Zlochevsky.” George Kent testified that this bribe occurred in December 2014 (seven months after Hunter Biden joined Burisma’s board), and, after learning about it, he and the resident legal adviser reported this allegation to the FBI.

In addition to the over four million dollars paid by Burisma to Hunter Biden and his business partner, Devon Archer, for membership on the board, Hunter, his family, and Archer received millions of dollars from foreign nationals with questionable backgrounds.

Devon Archer received $142,300 from Kenges Rakishev of Kazakhstan, purportedly for a car, the same day Vice President Joe Biden appeared with Ukrainian Prime Minister Arsemy Yasenyuk and addressed Ukrainian legislators in Kyiv regarding Russia’s actions in Crimea.

Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina. Ms. Baturina is the wife (widow) of the former mayor of Moscow.
Hunter Biden had business associations with Ye Jianming, Gongwen Dong, and other Chinese nationals linked to the Communist government and People’s Liberation Army. Those associations resulted in millions of dollars in questionable transactions.

Hunter Biden opened a bank account with Gongwen Dong that financed a $100,000 global spending spree with James Biden and Sara Biden.
Hunter Biden also moved millions of dollars from his law firm to James Biden’s and Sara Biden’s firm. Upon being questioned about the transaction, Sara Biden refused to provide supporting documentation and information to more clearly explain the activity. The bank subsequently closed the account.

Hunter Biden paid nonresident women who were nationals of Russia or other Eastern European countries and who appear to be linked to an “Eastern European prostitution or human trafficking ring.”

You can also tell that this narrative is kind of rubbish because if there was a bunch of damning evidence Trump and Rudy would have dropped it on us by now.

And here is the full report, with citations and hard evidence of all positions including very damning evidence that there is no way around Joe Biden denying he was directly involved in this corruption:

https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Ukraine%20Report_FINAL.pdf

Newjack left the building after this.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Newjack left the building after this.

Most of it just isn't true or is taken out of context.

No matter what he wants to post the prosecutor was being asked to be removed by anti-corruption bodies in Europe and this decision was also backed by Republicans as well.

🙄