Originally posted by Stoic
Superman wins. Let's get real now. By comparison, she struggles and gets slapped around by Darkseid. Superman beats Darkseid's eyes closed and overpowers him.
With that being out of the way, Superman wins easily, like almost any herald would against any other herald if the nerfs are so uneven. Just 1 arm behind the back of someone with multiple ways to attack without their limbs against making someone blind is ridiculous, Wonder Woman would do better than most because she has feats for that nerf, but it is still a way too big nerf in comparison.
Originally posted by GodofNature
How is Darkseid's jobbing against Superman an argument? Let's get real now: Wonder Woman got slapped around by a supposed to be transcendent being, the same would happen to Superman alone if going by Darkseid's more proper showings, or are you saying an unamped Superman is in the transcendent tier and stronger than the Justice League?
Yes, is this a news to you? Even new 52 Superman was stronger than rest of the league combined.
Originally posted by abhilegend
What's this supposed to prove? Not to mention Justice league odyssey retconned that Darkseid was never at full power.
Ah, I see.
But how powerful do you think that Darkseid is?
In the scans from ww, WW was able to drain Darkseid of all the power by the "love" for her dieties.
Maybe that is why he was trying to regain power, no? idk
I am unfamiliar with how it is implied he was never at "full power".
What events transpired that caused him to not be full power other than WW draining him?
Originally posted by TGATES
Ah, I see.But how powerful do you think that Darkseid is?
In the scans from ww, WW was able to drain Darkseid of all the power by the "love" for her dieties.
Maybe that is why he was trying to regain power, no? idk
I am unfamiliar with how it is implied he was never at "full power".
What events transpired that caused him to not be full power other than WW draining him?
Basically it was a retcon that he was never at full power.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, is this a news to you? Even new 52 Superman was stronger than rest of the league combined.
Originally posted by MrMind
who is this strange sock is the better question
I had to google sock because i know it under another name, and can assure you i never had an account before on this particular forum.