Political savvy & the law of parsimony

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Political savvy & the law of parsimony

Ockham's razor (law of parsimomy) is the principle that "entities should not be multiplied without necessity”. This is often stated as"the simplest explanation is most likely the right one".

I beg all of my neighbors to the south, on both sides of the political spectrum, to take a deep breath, avoid the hyperbole and drama, and to worry less about proving the other side wrong and worry more about finding common ground and start getting things straight.

Otherwise, you’re pretty much writing off your future.

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Originally posted by KharmaDog
Ockham's razor (law of parsimomy) is the principle that "entities should not be multiplied without necessity”. This is often stated as"the simplest explanation is most likely the right one".

I beg all of my neighbors to the south, on both sides of the political spectrum, to take a deep breath, avoid the hyperbole and drama, and to worry less about proving the other side wrong and worry more about finding common ground and start getting things straight.

Otherwise, you’re pretty much writing off your future.

Occam's razor is almost never correct.

As we learn more about the universe, the explanations for everything become more and more complicated.

Also, I've tried to find common ground many many times. But people do not want common ground. Even those that come from very clear common grounds still fight and argue about the commonest of the grounds.

It is not possible to reason with a person who arrived at their position without reason.

But I at least can keep up with the news and read opinions of people I know about that news. So this site still has a purpose.

“Occam's razor is almost never correct.

As we learn more about the universe, the explanations for everything become more and more complicated.“

Though I agree that the universe can be a complex place, I believe that people, on the other hand, are not complex at all. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and swims like a duck, it is most likely a duck. I sometimes wish people were more complicated, as their motivations would more likely be less disappointing.

“It is not possible to reason with a person who arrived at their position without reason. “

That could be the greatest bumper sticker ever.

I like this guy.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
“Occam's razor is almost never correct.

As we learn more about the universe, the explanations for everything become more and more complicated.“

Though I agree that the universe can be a complex place, I believe that people, on the other hand, are not complex at all. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and swims like a duck, it is most likely a duck. I sometimes wish people were more complicated, as their motivations would more likely be less disappointing.

“It is not possible to reason with a person who arrived at their position without reason. “

That could be the greatest bumper sticker ever.

No, that's still incorrect.

People are more complicated, not more simple, as we understand humans and biology, more. As we learn more about human cognition, neuroscience, and environmental factors, we realize that all explanations just keep getting more and more complicated.

Occam's Razor is pretty much philosophical trash as it almost never adequately translates to the real world and only functions as a fun talking point in high school philosophy class. It has it's purposes as a teaching tool but just does not adequately translate to the real world.

Hickam's dictum is a better explanation for just about everything when you apply it like an antonym of Occam's Razor (and not just medical science).

Occam’s razor is often applied incorrectly, and I think it’s current disfavour is more of a case of it being incorrectly applied than the theory itself.

I believe that the introduction of new assumptions should be minimized is a more valid assertation than that of hickam’s dictum .

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and swims like a duck, it is most likely a duck.

Going by this, Biden likely has some form of cognitive impairment.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Occam’s razor is often applied incorrectly, and I think it’s current disfavour is more of a case of it being incorrectly applied than the theory itself.

I believe that the introduction of new assumptions should be minimized is a more valid assertation than that of hickam’s dictum .

Pretty sure it's definitely not in "disfavor" at all but widely overused.

And your belief is simply wrong. The "entities should not be multiplied without necessity" concept is the problem: it's almost always wrong as everything has a more complicated explanation.

You’re applying scientific approaches to problem solving to the very unscientific phenomenon of human behaviour.

To oversimplify or over complicate the behavioural motivations of people will get you nowhere.

Approaching any romantic, business or platonic relationship with an over scientific perspective is not going to turn out well.

Your accusation that I am “simply wrong” comes off as both arrogant and obtuse. Two characteristics that I would not have attributed to you by reading your previous posts.

Originally posted by dadudemon
No, that's still incorrect.

People are more complicated, not more simple, as we understand humans and biology, more. As we learn more about human cognition, neuroscience, and environmental factors, we realize that all explanations just keep getting more and more complicated.

Occam's Razor is pretty much philosophical trash as it almost never adequately translates to the real world and only functions as a fun talking point in high school philosophy class. It has it's purposes as a teaching tool but just does not adequately translate to the real world.

Hickam's dictum is a better explanation for just about everything when you apply it like an antonym of Occam's Razor (and not just medical science).

I like this guy. 👆

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Ockham's razor (law of parsimomy) is the principle that "entities should not be multiplied without necessity”. This is often stated as"the simplest explanation is most likely the right one".

I beg all of my neighbors to the south, on both sides of the political spectrum, to take a deep breath, avoid the hyperbole and drama, and to worry less about proving the other side wrong and worry more about finding common ground and start getting things straight.

Otherwise, you’re pretty much writing off your future.

Nice to see you back Kharma! 👆 and I agree with you.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Nice to see you back Kharma! 👆 and I agree with you.

Nice to see you agreeing with gibberish posts. Very telling. 👆

Originally posted by Eon Blue
I like this guy. 👆

lol!

Sometimes, I cannot understand the chess games you're playing, but this time, it was simple enough that I got it.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
You’re applying scientific approaches to problem solving to the very unscientific phenomenon of human behaviour.

You make liberal use of an epistemological tool and make direct statements about using it empirically, and then very clearly state empiricism cannot be used to study human behavior.

I'm wondering why you are unable to see the absurdity and contradictory nature of your position.

U trollin', bro?

These various spellings of "occams razor" are triggering me plz agree to one correct spelling

Originally posted by Surtur
These various spellings of "occams razor" are triggering me plz agree to one correct spelling

"Occam's Razor" is used a lot more:

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=Occams%20Razor,Ockhams%20Razor

But the friar it is named after has a surname spelling of "Ockham" but the Latin writings (what he wrote his works in) would have spelled his name as "Occam" so Occam would be the most correct and original spelling. Which is why it is the most common spelling. With things like these, the Latin spelling is the one that shows up in philosophy and science (a vast majority of time).

At no point should "Ocham" be considered correct and that is simply a misspelling that is common enough to have shown up in too many places ignore it.

No one cares about this except nerds and philosophy majors.