Gohan never has lightning around him, in the same chapters than Goku and Vegeta have it around them.Literally the only time you don't see lightning around ssj2, is when Goku uses it for one panel to destroy Yakon... Unless you want to believe that Akira somehow forgot to use it on Gohan, yet not Goku, or Vegeta, or having used it on Gohan when he had the anger from Videl being hurt.
Also Gohan admits when Buu emerges he hadn't been able to tap into his full power.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Through out the entirety of early dragon ball, 6 years of training on got goku a couple hundred pl points.
It took Master Roshie 3 years just to get strong enough to take the sacred water from Korin. Goku did it in three days.
Saiyans level up ridiculously easily compared to everyone else (Barring Super, and a god tier ticket under every seat)..
Originally posted by cdtmto be fair, Goku was on level with Roshi, when it took him 3 days to do so.
It took Master Roshie 3 years just to get strong enough to take the sacred water from Korin. Goku did it in three days.Saiyans level up ridiculously easily compared to everyone else (Barring Super, and a god tier ticket under every seat)..
Originally posted by Kento
to be fair, Goku was on level with Roshi, when it took him 3 days to do so.
Roshie also fought fairly well against Tien, who was stronger then Tao Pie Pie.
Meaning he was probably holding back a lot against Goku in their tournament (And Krillin too). After all, his point was to test them, not crush them.
Originally posted by cdtmDidn't Roshi admit to himself the only reason he won against Goku was because of the height difference in their final attack, because Roshi was able to get connect with a much stronger kick?
Roshie also fought fairly well against Tien, who was stronger then Tao Pie Pie.Meaning he was probably holding back a lot against Goku in their tournament (And Krillin too). After all, his point was to test them, not crush them.
Originally posted by Kento
Didn't Roshi admit to himself the only reason he won against Goku was because of the height difference in their final attack, because Roshi was able to get connect with a much stronger kick?
He did.
Doesn't mean he still wasn't going easy on him. Goku was going easy on Toppo, and still lost legitimately under his self imposed limitations.
And remember, when Goku and Roshie were struggling to their feet to declare "I am the winner", Roshie bounced up rather easily, while Goku fell onto his face.
Originally posted by cdtmRoshi also said to himself he had been secretly training during the next tournament. So of course he would be stronger, than he had been.
He did.Doesn't mean he still wasn't going easy on him. Goku was going easy on Toppo, and still lost legitimately under his self imposed limitations.
And remember, when Goku and Roshie were struggling to their feet to declare "I am the winner", Roshie bounced up rather easily, while Goku fell onto his face.
And Roshi still got up after Goku did, even though Goku's kick didn't hit as cleanly because he was shorter.
Originally posted by Kento
Didn't Roshi admit to himself the only reason he won against Goku was because of the height difference in their final attack, because Roshi was able to get connect with a much stronger kick?
It's KID Gohan, not Teen Gohan. Teen Gohan is the Buu Saga version because he's the actual teenager.
Kid Gohan punches a hole through Movie 8 Broly. The Cell Juniors and Bojack's minions are just as strong as the Movie 8 Saiyans and Piccolo and Kid Gohan took the villains out way easier than Broly did the heroes. Perfect Cell and Bojack are just as strong or nearly as strong as Movie 8 Broly and Kid Gohan easily handled the former two, so he's going to exert only a little bit more effort to take out the latter.
Kid Gohan high diffs Movie 10 Broly. I don't believe Movie 10 Gohan is stronger than Cell Games Gohan and Movie 9 Gohan even if he's probably stronger than Movie 8 Gohan (which is no big feat considering he was the weakest among the good guys).
https://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21902
Guess there's some differences.
I dunno, I don't usually notice little things unless they're side by side comparisons. A friend had to tell me my TV reds looked pink once.
Either way, the DB nerds on that site are arguing Freeza was probably depowered, and that Base Gohan could have one shot him easy enough. Pretty sure they mean "canon" Gohan.
Originally posted by cdtm
https://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21902Guess there's some differences.
Distinct facial features, hair and attitude, yes.
Originally posted by cdtm
Either way, the DB nerds on that site are arguing Freeza was probably depowered
Frieza wasn't depowered, he just wasn't in his 100% bulky form. That's what they mean. Can you read?
To be fair, Base Gohan didn't even take his time to power up properly or erect his aura.
Originally posted by cdtm
, and that Base Gohan could have one shot him easy enough. Pretty sure they mean "canon" Gohan.
Which makes perfect sense, considering that all Supreme Kais were said to be capable of one-shotting Frieza.
And Shin spent most of his panel/screen time nerdgasming over Saiyans.
Originally posted by Ridley_PrimeGohan was weaker at the beginning of the Boo saga than he was during the Cell Games, while Dabura was equal to Perfect Cell.
I assume that was also the case with Gohan vs Dabura in the manga.
So literally the only way that Gohan could have stalemated Dabura is if he was using SS2(as a Cell-level being would have utterly stomped Boo saga SS1 Gohan.)
The scaling would be:
SS2 Gohan(Cell Games) > SS2 Gohan(Boo saga) ~ Dabura ~ Perfect Cell > SS1 Gohan(Cell Games) > SS1 Gohan(Boo saga)