Originally posted by abhilegend
*Yawn*Here, let me rip your arguments one by one. Again.
It was a shadow world of Asgard and a pocket dimension just like Asgard was. How large Asgard "universe" was? When Thor removed it from Asgard space and brought it on Earth, there was nothing left in Asgard.
https://s31.postimg.cc/sl9bprkez/RCO004.jpg
Even the scientist scan you're so fond of posting says the same.
I've highlighted the relevant parts.
And we have no idea what his Galactus is capable of since it was the only time Fraction wrote him.
Hahaha.
Bwahahahahahahahaha.
No, let me try once again.
No, I can't. Seriously, where do you get this stuff?
That's nice? And contradictory to his own writings later on.
Which multiverse? Nine realms aren't multiverse, my dear idiot. They are barely a planet combined going by Fraction's cosmology excluding Earth.
Asgard and each of the nine worlds are fully fledged Universes that even undergo Entropy. Asgard however is the heart of Asgard Space.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Asgard and each of the nine worlds are fully fledged Universes that even undergo Entropy. Asgard however is the heart of Asgard Space.
Fraction outright showed that there was nothing in Asgard "space" once Thor removed and brought the city to Earth.
Rage: That's just the heart of Asgard.
Idiot.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Surely you can both be right.Asgard, as in the city, can be essential to the Asgard dimension without encompassing all of it.
That's how shadow world moved up on the world tree. Ignoring such a blatant fact is idiotic.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Except Asgard city is everything in Asgard space, without it there's literally vacuum.That's how shadow world moved up on the world tree. Ignoring such a blatant fact is idiotic.
I think Rage is referring to this later statement in the succeeding issue.
It's entirely possible for them to be universes, but to only have the king of Asgard as the only "place". The vaccuum seems to be referring to Asgard's function as linchpin, not necessarily the fact that the city of Asgard is considered a universe.
The point itself is moot now anyways, as the asgardian cosmology changed again in Vol 4 iirc, with the war of the realms and Malekith stuff.
Originally posted by krisblaze
I think Rage is referring to this later statement in the succeeding issue.
That's actually repeating the same thing.
It's entirely possible for them to be universes, but to only have the king of Asgard as the only "place". The vaccuum seems to be referring to Asgard's function as linchpin, not necessarily the fact that the city of Asgard is considered a universe.
But that's exactly what it was.
The point itself is moot now anyways, as the asgardian cosmology changed again in Vol 4 iirc, with the war of the realms and Malekith stuff.
Nah, it's rather consistent.
Originally posted by abhilegend
😂Fraction outright showed that there was nothing in Asgard "space" once Thor removed and brought the city to Earth.
Rage: That's just the heart of Asgard.
Idiot.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That's actually repeating the same thing.But that's exactly what it was.
Nah, it's rather consistent.
That is Asgard Space. It is a fully-fledged Universe Stars, planets, galaxies etc.
Asgard City is it's heart (Aka the Odin Force), but it is its own Universe.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Not much to it then.
They're "universes" in the same sense that a pocket dimension would be a universe.Typical Fraction hyperbole 😂
PLEASE do not listen to anything Abhiligend says without any double checking.
Fraction extensively made it clear that the Asgardian realms were Universes. Here, the Dark Gods Universe we saw literally suffer Entropic death:
Their version of Odin, was staving off Entropy at will, and once they left, it died. Asgard is somewhat similar, but it is a fresh Universe, capable of living on its own.
Originally posted by abhilegend
No, it isn't Asgard's stars or galaxies. Those are normal universe's stars and galaxies.Its not that complicated.
They are completely different dimensions under Fraction that are linked via the Rainbow Bridge. Your own scans confirmed it.
Your dumbass just completely forgot you aren't debating with Carver here, and I actually know the Thor mythos.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
PLEASE do not listen to anything Abhiligend says without any double checking.Fraction extensively made it clear that the Asgardian realms were Universes. Here, the Dark Gods Universe we saw literally suffer Entropic death:
Their version of Odin, was staving off Entropy at will, and once they left, it died. Asgard is somewhat similar, but it is a fresh Universe, capable of living on its own.
Their "universe" has one planetoid body. That's it.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
They are completely different dimensions under Fraction that are linked via the Rainbow Bridge. Your own scans confirmed it.Your dumbass just completely forgot you aren't debating with Carver here, and I actually know the Thor mythos.
And you think you know Thor mythos?
Originally posted by krisblaze
Not much to it then.
They're "universes" in the same sense that a pocket dimension would be a universe.Typical Fraction hyperbole 😂
That's what Loki said. This does not preclude that they are Universes. It doesn't even mean Loki was right.
For example, when Thor chopped down the World Tree, the World Eaters were banished to "nothing space" which was still a Universe, just cold (No life).
It must really get your panties in a bunch having Asgardian cosmology being so large. I have no clue why it does, but its hilarious. 😂
Originally posted by abhilegend
😂Their "universe" has one planetoid body. That's it.
And this proves what exactly? The space of Earth 616 was always visible from Asgard.And you think you know Thor mythos?
"From the superdense heart of a dying Universe..." and we see all matter collapse to Entropy. They were literally the last living things in their Universe. Unlike Asgard Space which is rich and vibrant.
The scientist was a Quantum Physicists, Tony Stark, Thor, Loki, and all Odin described Universes. Matt Fraction is also not an idiot. He can google, and explain what Universes means. He could've used the word realms, pocket dimensions etc. He specifically said Universes a hundred times.
I also think its hilarious how you accept that they were separate physical realms, but at the same, refute that Asgard isn't. Really odd.
