Hal Jordan & Kyle Rayner vs Silver Surfer & Shaman Nate Grey

who wins

Team Marvel.
Either GL is a good match for Surfer, Shaman Nate IMHO is too much for either

Hal has better feats but ok...

Better feats than Nate? LOL

Not on average.

well let's see

off the top of my head:

Hal korna bust

Hal was playing pool game with planets

Hal has beaten cyborg superman

Hal has beaten zod amped on two suns, same Zod who was beating the crap out of several green lanterns including Kilowog and Kyle Rayner, same Zod who one shotted Supergirl, beat the crap out of Cyborg Superman when his brain was hanging out.

Hal easily tanked on Mogo amped on both GLC and SC power, keep in mind few GLC members stopped a galaxy busting explosion in SCW

Hal destroyed sun eater

Hal went toe to toe with Sinestrollax which was skyfather+ level, the same sinestrollax who outright destroyed spectre, ripped the heart out of volthoom, destroyed a shield even white lantern kyle rayner couldn't

but yes, Nate has better feat.....LOL

Originally posted by MrMind
well let's see

off the top of my head:

Hal korna bust

Hal was playing pool game with planets

Hal has beaten cyborg superman

Hal has beaten zod amped on two suns, same Zod who was beating the crap out of several green lanterns including Kilowog and Kyle Rayner, same Zod who one shotted Supergirl, beat the crap out of Cyborg Superman when his brain was hanging out.

Hal easily tanked on Mogo amped on both GLC and SC power, keep in mind few GLC members stopped a galaxy busting explosion in SCW

Hal destroyed sun eater

Hal went toe to toe with Sinestrollax which was skyfather+ level, the same sinestrollax who outright destroyed spectre, ripped the heart out of volthoom, destroyed a shield even white lantern kyle rayner couldn't

but yes, Nate has better feat.....LOL

I'm curious, which feats listed here do you think are above Nate? Becaaue I don't see any.

Pre Shaman Nate had the power to match the pheonix, create a Phoenix rapture, could match Franklin Richards, was stated to have the power to destroy all universes. Never mind the ability ro freeze and manipulate time and just flat out reality warp.

So yes Nate had better feata

Originally posted by beatboks
I'm curious, which feats listed here do you think are above Nate? Becaaue I don't see any.

Pre Shaman Nate had the power to match the pheonix, create a Phoenix rapture, could match Franklin Richards, was stated to have the power to destroy all universes. Never mind the ability ro freeze and manipulate time and just flat out reality warp.

So yes Nate had better feata

^ that puts the discussion in a better ball park, still a discussion that could go either way, depending on context.

No, it doesn't.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, it doesn't.

Ok, if you don't think that makes it debatable in Hal's favor then Nate is still to much.

After all emotional spectrum is space chees and completely unquantifiable. Warworld from hindreds of sectors away is the feat that is actually somewhat quantifiable and debatable and even that has an element of space cheese

They literally measured Nate's power against the Dark Phoenix.

and Hal killed Krona

Hi jacked! Dark Phoenix vs Krona

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

They literally measured Nate's power against the Dark Phoenix.

They extrapolated. Not quite the same.

Originally posted by beatboks
Ok, if you don't think that makes it debatable in Hal's favor then Nate is still to much.

After all emotional spectrum is space chees and completely unquantifiable. Warworld from hindreds of sectors away is the feat that is actually somewhat quantifiable and debatable and even that has an element of space cheese

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

They literally measured Nate's power against the Dark Phoenix.

Team 1 wins unless Team 2 wins first. Who knows in the world of fictional make belief characters that people base their lives around?

Team 8 wins.

Quan is going through mid life crisis.

I have a question. Didn't Nate recently create his own universe or reality? If so, how is that being ignored?

He was amped.

Originally posted by Ambient
Hi jacked! Dark Phoenix vs Krona

krona stomps

krona is at least universal, dark phoenix is a star eater