Cosmic Thor vs Superboy Prime

Started by AlbertoJohnAvil4 pages

Due to being in the phantom zone and hitting that dimensional wall. Context is a big thing it isn’t just a thing he can do he has to hit a dimensional barrier to achieve it, point blank. I don't expect superman fans to understand context though so that's not surprising.

Because neither DarkSaint nor I claimed the crises were shattered by SBP punch. And it was you who blatantly denied what the comic had stated
And no. SBP's retcon punch is part of his powers.Not a some side effect that created by breaking paradise dimension

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Not true at all, When SBP using his retcon punch for the first time is before the infinite crisis
https://ibb.co/4tFYY9v
And later, SBP did change the reality again in Teen Titans
https://imgur.com/d8iNkUK
https://imgur.com/jpilA3Q
https://imgur.com/oKjAfm4


Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Prime shattered/changed continuity during Infinite Crisis

And in this issue stated he shattered reality before
https://postlmg.cc/G8dD08jV

The source wall explosion tanking feat also comes from this issue
Prime mentioned the collapsing of the source wall and that ultimately freed him
https://ibb.co/tQbD1g9

Is Superman One Million punching his way to the future and creating shockwaves through history any different?

Considering he did it in front of a time device, and likely wouldn't have caused the time effects hitting thin air?

The way I see it, not just anybody could shatter a dimension by hitting that wall. Not just any high herald, anyways.

Due to being in the phantom zone and hitting that dimensional wall. Context is a big thing it isn’t just a thing he can do he has to hit a dimensional barrier to achieve it, point blank. I don't expect superman fans to understand context though so that's not surprising.

Lol, You mean your conjectures.
There no indication or hint suggesting your fanfiction
Alex said it was some ability only SBP has
SBP retconned continuity on earth in Teen Titans
And in this issue WW clearly stated SBP once shattered reality with one punch

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
He shattered the antenna which needed to be destroyed for reality to be shattered. Prime didn’t shatter reality, just destroyed the thing holding it all together

Except the antenna was not to hold the multiverses together. It was to channel the crisis energy.

In Multiverse'e end, Lanterns destroyed the same antennas as Prime says, yet no universe was destroyed.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Lying about what?

In that reference it’s due to him breaking the paradise dimensions wall unquantifiable and hardly all of reality


All of reality was affected by his punch.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Because neither DarkSaint nor I claimed the crises were shattered by SBP punch. And it was you who blatantly denied what the comic had stated
And no. SBP's retcon punch is part of his powers.Not a some side effect that created by breaking paradise dimension
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Lol, You mean your conjectures.
There no indication or hint suggesting your fanfiction
Alex said it was some ability only SBP has
SBP retconned continuity on earth in Teen Titans
And in this issue WW clearly stated SBP once shattered reality with one punch

He was in the phantom zone when he did it. I don’t know how you don’t know this unless you didn’t look at your scans (you don't)
read your scans. Sbp is sent to the phantom zone, sbp breaks out of the phantom zone via hitting it, retcon punch happens. That’s crazy it’s EXACTLY what I said happened. Quite literally only scan needed:

Stop googling scans. Still doesn't change that FACT Prime ALWAYS needs a barrier/something connected to said reality to achieve said feat

So he could hit a wall and retcon reality?

qwerty actually read comics, you are the only one googling scans here alberta

Had Alfred been in the Phantom Zone, he too could have broken out and retconned reality, tbf.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So he could hit a wall and retcon reality?

He will have to hit some dimensional barrier to do that. Nothing in canon disputes this fact

Prime retcons reality hitting the walls of paradise dimension.
Prime retcons reality hitting the walls of Phantom Zone.
Prime retcons reality by punching Time Trapper.

Conclusion : Prime needs to hit a wall. Its not him who retcons it.

ermm

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
He will have to hit some dimensional barrier to do that. Nothing in canon disputes this fact

Explain how he retconned reality and brought back his home universe (got sent to his own universe) by punching Time Trapper.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Explain how he retconned reality and brought back his home universe (got sent to his own universe) by punching Time Trapper.

If you read the time trapper stuff time trapper EXPLAINED if he and prime hit eachother it’d basically be a paradox which is what happened.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Prime retcons reality hitting the walls of paradise dimension.
Prime retcons reality hitting the walls of Phantom Zone.
Prime retcons reality by punching Time Trapper.

Conclusion : Prime needs to hit a wall. Its not him who retcons it.

ermm

And it’s not just any wall it’s dimensional walls

@Alberto
1 Nobody says he wasn't trapped in phantom zone and punched his way through it.
2 Like I said before, There is no indication SBP's retcon punch was due to breaking paradise dimension or phantom zone. All we know is he shattered the reality/change continuity with his punches. Just like the comic said 🙂
3 Also we saw earth-2 Superman breaking the paradise dimension too, But no continuity had been changed by it.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-2005/Issue-1?id=39427#26
Alex even qualified SBP as his reality-changing architect instead of earth-2 Superman
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-Secret-Files-2006/Full?id=107443#35
Not to mention in the recent Death Metal WW actually said SBP phucked reality with his punches

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
If you read the time trapper stuff time trapper EXPLAINED if he and prime hit eachother it’d basically be a paradox which is what happened.

And it’s not just any wall it’s dimensional walls


Paradoxes don't recreate destroyed universes. Yes, it destroyed Trapper but it recreated the prime universe too.

Also Doomsday once had broken the phantom zone like SBP did. Again, There is no changes in continuity.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Batman-Superman-2013/Issue-11?id=36293#19
Put it simple:Your SBP retconned reality was due to he was in paradise dimension/phantom zone is just your conjectures. There is no indication or hint suggesting SBP retconned reality was some side effect. On the contrary, WW literally said SBP once shattered reality

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
@Alberto
1 Nobody says he wasn't trapped in phantom zone and punched his way through it.
2 Like I said before, There is no indication SBP's retcon punch was due to breaking paradise dimension or phantom zone. All we know is he shattered the reality/change continuity with his punches. Just like the comic said 🙂
3 Also we saw earth-2 Superman breaking the paradise dimension too, But no continuity had been changed by it.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-2005/Issue-1?id=39427#26
Alex even qualified SBP as his reality-changing architect instead of earth-2 Superman
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Infinite-Crisis-Secret-Files-2006/Full?id=107443#35
Not to mention in the recent Death Metal WW actually said SBP phucked reality with his punches

Except for how those are the only times he does the retcon punch And I never said anyone could I said prime only can via breaking through dimensional barriers. And yes he did, via breaking through said barriers he destroyed parts of reality and retconned things.

If he just retconned everything via punching it’d happen more often and not just when he hits specific things

Absence of proof isn't proof of absence. There's nothing intrinsic to paradise dimension or phantom zone which allows prime to change reality.

Again, Like I said many times before. It is all your conjectures. The comics never stated that SBP needs breaking dimensional barriers to retcon reality.
And retcon punch is one of his abilities. Not saying he couldn't just simply punch people
Kal Kent broke time barrier via punching, Doesn't mean everytime he punches something he will travel to the future