Black Noir vs Deadpool

Started by TheVaultDweller4 pages
Originally posted by KingD19
Deadpool has taken multiple hits from Colossus and been okay. He gets knocked around but he gets back up pretty quickly. And he certainly won't break his hands or feet hitting Noir.

This is actually another good one for Wade I kinda forgot about because it's more a blast power feat for the kid, because he sends him pretty far away. But Wade pretty much immediately shakes it off too.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PersonalBlankGoldfish-mobile.mp4

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
This is actually another good one for Wade I kinda forgot about because it's more a blast power feat for the kid, because he sends him pretty far away. But Wade pretty much immediately shakes it off too.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PersonalBlankGoldfish-mobile.mp4

I honestly forgot about that scene. But yeah he got a flame explosion in the face that launched him 2 stories up and into a building and he was basically standing as soon as he hit the floor.

https://i.imgur.com/2fVKezL.mp4 - He was just fine after being tossed across a freeway and into a car hard enough to crumple its side.

https://i.imgur.com/gwQovFv.mp4 - Gets backhanded into a different car and is fine, his only injuries were his already broken wrists and foot.

Originally posted by KingD19
I honestly forgot about that scene. But yeah he got a flame explosion in the face that launched him 2 stories up and into a building and he was basically standing as soon as he hit the floor.

https://i.imgur.com/2fVKezL.mp4 - He was just fine after being tossed across a freeway and into a car hard enough to crumple its side.

https://i.imgur.com/gwQovFv.mp4 - Gets backhanded into a different car and is fine, his only injuries were his already broken wrists and foot.

He seems to be functionally immortal, much like his comic counterpart. The whole mental vision thing with Vanessa at the end of the 2nd film hinted at that IMO. Hell, he was even still talking to Colossus when the later was carrying his various parts in a bag to the X-mansion after he tried offing himself.

But yeah, admittedly, my initial assessment was a bit off. I was basing my opinion to a large degree on DP vs Ajax, due to the similarities between the later and BN, but I had forgotten how formidable Ajax actually was. The guy was actually a beast. Takes a sword through the chest as good as Wade takes a knife to the brain.

Yeah Wade and even Ajax are much more impressive than people care to remember. What seals the deal is speed. Wade has a lot of great bullet-timing feats and even Ajax has a few.

Yeah, Wade at one point watched the bullet that was heading for Vanessa, chased it, and almost caught up.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
What? Deadpool literally got blown into pieces in the second film and survived.

And he's literally strong enough to drive his katana through about a foot of concrete barrier IIRC.

Okay, but for all practical purposes the fight would be over if he gets his head torn off.

You think Noir could really get Wade in that position? He's waaay faster and has similar strength/durability but much better skills as well.

He didnt pull that move on a supe. He did it on a regular guy who wasn't aware he was there. Not a Deadpool.

It's why I asked what amount of strength it takes to rip off limbs.

You also need to take into account Deadpool is many times more durable than the normal guy Noir tore the jaw off of. It took Juggernaut some, not much, but some effort to rip him in half, and Noir is not Juggernaut. Wade has endured some insane damage that he's just walked off and not been effected like a normal guy. Like jumping from a highway overpass into a speeding SUV through the sunroof and not even flinching. Or superhero landing from the top of a building and standing right back up.

Yes this is also true.

It's also making me want a deadpool 3. Which I know is coming, but I want it now.

Though I'm disappointed it doesn't seem like Cable will be in it. Those Cable/Deadpool comics were awesome.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Yeah Wade and even Ajax are much more impressive than people care to remember. What seals the deal is speed. Wade has a lot of great bullet-timing feats and even Ajax has a few.

Yeah, it's something that sometimes happens and, as can be seen in this instance, I am also guilty of on occasion. When a villain fails to impress overall, one sometimes remembers their feats through a negative lens as well, skewing the perspective a bit.

Also, I am actually a pretty big Deadpool fan (to the point where two separate family members have had custom Deadpool shirts made for me), so I try to be extra careful I don't fall prey to favouritism.

Originally posted by KingD19
Yeah, Wade at one point watched the bullet that was heading for Vanessa, chased it, and almost caught up.

And Ajax was bobbing his head around a pair of shots from Wade on the highway like he was throwing amateur punches instead of firing bullets.

And Ajax only listed power was "the inability to feel pain". Like what? Dude, you're a f*cking super soldier. I'd willingly change my name to Francis if I could get those powers.

Well, IIRC, he does mention he also has augmented reflexes at one point while experimenting on Wade. But yeah, the rest of it was completely nonsensical. He has significant super strength and clearly either has some kind of healing factor (albeit much slower than Wade's) or some kind of mental control over his internals. Because otherwise either instance of getting stabbed through the chest with a sword would have killed him, but he actually seemed more annoyed by the fact that he had something poking out of him.

His explicit power was superhuman reflexes, but he also has superhuman strength, durability, and a healing factor.

The way I think of it is that the mutants in the program are all generally enhanced across the board, but have one particularly advanced mutation. For Ajax that's reflexes, for Deadpool healing factor, for Angel Dust strength.

Deadpool arguably had better reflexes than Ajax though, while it seemed Ajax was stronger than him which is how he basically beat him up when they fought. He was just more powerful than Wade iirc. In the final fight, Wade straight up lost and had to be saved by Vanessa, then he only beat Ajax because his durability/HF let him get up slightly faster than him and get a good position. Then he broke his arms from a full mount, and even though he didn't feel the pain, he lost at that point.

Originally posted by NemeBro
His explicit power was superhuman reflexes, but he also has superhuman strength, durability, and a healing factor.

The way I think of it is that the mutants in the program are all generally enhanced across the board, but have one particularly advanced mutation. For Ajax that's reflexes, for Deadpool healing factor, for Angel Dust strength.

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Makes sense.

Originally posted by KingD19
Deadpool arguably had better reflexes than Ajax though, while it seemed Ajax was stronger than him which is how he basically beat him up when they fought. He was just more powerful than Wade iirc. In the final fight, Wade straight up lost and had to be saved by Vanessa, then he only beat Ajax because his durability/HF let him get up slightly faster than him and get a good position. Then he broke his arms from a full mount, and even though he didn't feel the pain, he lost at that point.

To be fair, Deadpool also has the benefit of more reflex feats, so it's kind of hard to know for sure. He did seem more agile than Ajax though. And Ajax, as already mentioned, seemed to hold a strength advantage over Wade. It was cool IMO. It gave both of them a more uniqueness to their style when they fought. Wade was more flowing where Ajax was more power.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
To be fair, Deadpool also has the benefit of more reflex feats, so it's kind of hard to know for sure. He did seem more agile than Ajax though. And Ajax, as already mentioned, seemed to hold a strength advantage over Wade. It was cool IMO. It gave both of them a more uniqueness to their style when they fought. Wade was more flowing where Ajax was more power.

Basically. They even had reflex/agility vs strength feats in their final fight. Wade no look caught the axe Ajax threw at him when his back was turned, and Ajax slung him across the deck by twisting his shoulder for example.

Originally posted by KingD19
Basically. They even had reflex/agility vs strength feats in their final fight. Wade no look caught the axe Ajax threw at him when his back was turned, and Ajax slung him across the deck by twisting his shoulder for example.

I still smile every time Ajax gets whacked by the shipping container though. It's an almost cartoony impact. And his yell as he goes over the edge just adds to it.