Superboy prime vs Skyfather Hercules

Started by Rage.Of.Olympus2 pages

Originally posted by abhilegend
It was only universe.

Source: Chaos War #5.

Not to mention that Chaos King was never depicted destroying a parallel universe.

Death Metal 4. Prime shattered 3 multiverses in a single punch. He is specifically stated to be able to shatter reality with punches.

Greg Pak Interview:

CosmicBookNews: Can you tell us a bit about the Chaos King? With the Silver Surfer and Galactus involved, he must pose a pretty big threat, more so than we have seen of him as Mikaboshi? (Chaos King being Mikaboshi‘s true form finally revealed?) Galactus is said to be from before the Big Bang. Does the Chaos King predate that and is that why Galactus takes notice?

Fred Van Lente: Yes, you are correct – According to Japanese mythology, Amatsu-Mikaboshi is the Void that pre-dated all existence. All existence, even the universe that Galactus originates from. In his original, Terran form, he laid waste to Olympus and killed Zeus in the ARES mini-series.

Since then, and his departure from Earth in Secret Invasion, he has taken over the realm of the Skrull gods and has been engorging himself on the pantheons of other alien races – including the Shi’ar, as seen in Assault on New Olympus. So he is more powerful than ever before – arguably, he’s the most dire threat the Marvel Universe has ever faced.

Greg Pak: Most supervillains want to rule the world, or maybe the universe. Not return all existence to the chaos and darkness that existed before creation itself. The Chaos King is a whole new kind of threat.

https://cosmicbook.news/articles/chaos_war_interview

Oh, and from Chaos War #5 that you so conveniently left out:

The entire run it was described, painfully so, on many different occasions, that the Chaos King destroyed the Multiverse/Creation/All Reality/All existence etc. ad nauseum.

P.S. The only reason Hercules was depowered was because he was still injured/drained from his fight. If he had waited, he'd have been fine apparently, making him even more OP than I remember:

Originally posted by abhilegend

Death Metal 4. Prime shattered 3 multiverses in a single punch. He is specifically stated to be able to shatter reality with punches.

Where?

Please post the scans or direct me to the page number:
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Dark-Nights-Death-Metal/Issue-4?id=176539#1

Originally posted by MrMind
I just don't give a shit enough to debate with you, you are not worth my time, I'm caring about 0.1 percent of vs boards nowadays, I'd like to spend my precious time talking to people I want to talk to

if you don't like it here find somewhere else, better yet put me on ignore

have a nice day 🙂

Prime wins because you like him more, that's cool. Your feelings are more important than feats, I agree. 👆

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Greg Pak Interview:

https://cosmicbook.news/articles/chaos_war_interview


The recap, the bios, everything says it was only universe.

Like I said, show one alternate universe Mikaboshi destroyed. Just one.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Oh, and from [b]Chaos War #5 that you so conveniently left out:

The entire run it was described, painfully so, on many different occasions, that the Chaos King destroyed the Multiverse/Creation/All Reality/All existence etc. ad nauseum.

P.S. The only reason Hercules was depowered was because he was still injured/drained from his fight. If he had waited, he'd have been fine apparently, making him even more OP than I remember:
[/B]


😂

The recap itself says that they are evacuating the universe.

Not the multiverse.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Prime wins because you like him more, that's cool. Your feelings are more important than feats, I agree. 👆

Glad we agreed 👆

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

The recap itself says that they are evacuating the universe.

Not the multiverse.

The recap is meaningless compared to in-comic confirmation. The recap also said creation/reality/end of all things multiple times, but I didn't post it for a reason. In-comic confirmation:

UniverseS --> We know Pak therefore is not an idiot, and when he says reality, he means all Universes.

Greg Pak in an interview clarified it was all of creation. /discussion

P.S. It's true, that Universe and reality might be used interchangeably sometimes, but that's okay. We can have some back and forth. We can even tally every time Multiverse/Creation/Reality was used and the word Universe was used.

But that would be pretty stupid and time consuming.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
[b]Where?

Please post the scans or direct me to the page number:
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Dark-Nights-Death-Metal/Issue-4?id=176539#1 [/B]


Here you go.

Before you start, breaking antennas does not destroy universes. Lanterns did it in Multiverse's end.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The recap is meaningless compared to in-comic confirmation. The recap also said creation/reality/end of all things multiple times, but I didn't post it for a reason. In-comic confirmation:

UniverseS --> We know Pak therefore is not an idiot, and when he says reality, he means all Universes.

Maybe he is an idiot if he wrote Incredible Hulks 621 which states in plain words that Hercules restored only universe.

There are other sources as well.

Herc says that he restored "the universe":

http://i.imgur.com/sHVM1Hf.jpg

Handbooks confirmation about CK being universal:

Blockbusters of the MU:

http://i.imgur.com/64C92ib.jpg?1

"Chaos King's attempt to revert reality-616"

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Fear itself handbook:

http://i.imgur.com/JPppRnf.jpg?1

"..consuming the universe entire"

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Heroic age: Villains

http://i.imgur.com/VUlLsya.jpg?2

Chaos King Scope: "Universal"

Greg Pak in an interview clarified it was all of creation. /discussion

P.S. It's true, that Universe and reality might be used interchangeably sometimes, but that's okay. We can have some back and forth. We can even tally every time Multiverse/Creation/Reality was used and the word Universe was used.

But that would be pretty stupid and time consuming.

Except it really isn't. No alternate universe was shown as destroyed. Only other gods' pocket universes were destroyed.

Mmm yes.

sbp oneshots

spite thread

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What SBP performed in Infinite Crisis is not even comparable to Hercules' biggest feat.

CK Hercules recreated 99.9% of Marvel's "infinite" Multiverse that was consumed by the Chaos King.

Also, you're giving SBP a win over potential feats he might accomplish?....

Hercules is many times more powerful than Odin or Galactus.

Have you ever heard of a glass Canon?
What would prevent Hercules from being koed by several massive punches?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The recap is meaningless compared to in-comic confirmation. The recap also said creation/reality/end of all things multiple times, but I didn't post it for a reason. In-comic confirmation:

UniverseS --> We know Pak therefore is not an idiot, and when he says reality, he means all Universes.

Greg Pak in an interview clarified it was all of creation. /discussion

P.S. It's true, that Universe and reality might be used interchangeably sometimes, but that's okay. We can have some back and forth. We can even tally every time Multiverse/Creation/Reality was used and the word Universe was used.

But that would be pretty stupid and time consuming.

The problem is Marvel often likes to use the term multiverse and universe interchangably for 616 with the excuse of its subrealms, pocket dimensions, and higher and lower dimensions like Asgard and whatnot.

Do we have proof of other universes being involved beyond that, or just a couple character claims?

Also, Prime's new feats put a stamp on this.

Lmao at this thread.

Originally posted by MrMind
the reason i pick sbp is he's about to fuk shit up big time in death metal, like possibly beating darkest knight kinda crazy feats coming

and someone like darkest knight could blink chaos king away

What good is it that I can restore multiverses yet get killed by a bullet? Power of influence has nothing to do with durability.
Hercules may be more durable than normal but by how much is speculation. Without feats, prime should one shot him.

Originally posted by MrMind

the reason i pick sbp is he's about to fuk shit up big time in death metal, like possibly beating darkest knight kinda crazy feats coming

and someone like darkest knight could blink chaos king away

yooo