How long after election will it be before we know who officially won?

Originally posted by Newjak
@Backfire of course Trump will fight it for as long as he can. He knows that once he's out of the office the wolves are coming.

I'm wondering how long the GOP is going to fight for him if Biden wins in a landslide.

They'll support Trump as long as he's POTUS, then once he's out they'll start their marketing campaign to remake themselves. "We were never really Trump supporters and the GOP didn't become the party of Trump." Kinda like what Paul Ryan did after he rage-quit out of office.

So far it's only been the democrats that I've seen doing shady shit.

It always is. Republicans are upstanding citizens, and if they aren't, they are Democrats. You tell em, Ranger!

The republicans aren't perfect either but democrats have done far worse shit.

This whole "we can only lose if the other side cheats" rhetoric is weird. I mean, I get that people are cheating (I honestly assume both sides are anyway), but I'd honestly be amazed if there was any kind of landslide.

It honestly just sounds like a ready-made excuse, just in case.

Originally posted by -Pr-
This whole "we can only lose if the other side cheats" rhetoric is weird. I mean, I get that people are cheating (I honestly assume both sides are anyway), but I'd honestly be amazed if there was any kind of landslide.

It honestly just sounds like a ready-made excuse, just in case.

Originally posted by Newjak
I mean there is a reason that voting in this country is generally so low. It's because voting is made harder than it's needs to be in this country.

Why is it so hard? I mean, what's the process of voting?

Over here, we get a voter card in the post, we go to the voting station with the card and our id, go in to the booth, and boom. In and out in a couple of minutes unless there's a big queue or something.

In my whole 18 years of voting, I have never had to register to vote.

In Canada, eligible voters are automatically registered.

One thing I don't agree with the GOP on, why make every single method of voting harder? Considering the vast majority of people love Trump, opening up every method of voting should only make his victory more glorious!

Agreed, voting should be made as easy as possible for eligible voters.

Long lineups, and minimal voting locations is wrong.

There's a school literally a few minutes away by foot where I vote, and I don't think I've waited more than 20 minutes to vote.

I've seen in the US, it takes some people hours to vote.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Why is it so hard? I mean, what's the process of voting?

Over here, we get a voter card in the post, we go to the voting station with the card and our id, go in to the booth, and boom. In and out in a couple of minutes unless there's a big queue or something.

One is party voter suppression is a very real thing. I happen to live in a very badly gerrymandered state. So it forces votes to not matter as much. You generally know who will win what area pretty early on in advance.

Also the number of polling places can be limited depending on who is in power. So certain places will only have one polling area despite them having much higher population densities then similar sized areas that with much lower populations. This can lead to long wait times.

We also don't get time off for going to vote. Yeah companies have to let you go vote but you lose out on salary. So a lot of people either can't go vote in the morning because they can't be late for work and end up trying to go afterwards. Of course if they work late they probably won't be able to make it before the polls close.

There is also transportation issues. Faulty voting ID laws that tend to hit the poorer populace more making it harder for them vote.

Honestly I think of the first things we need to do is make election day a day or 2 holiday. We also need to keep the early voting standards we kind of ramped up during this pandemic.

After that you can put on a nationwide campaign to turn voting into a party day with the voting stations.

Originally posted by Newjak
Trump shouldn't do shady shit that even his own party said he shouldn't have done 😬

You realize that just because you say that, doesn’t actually make it so?

Originally posted by Newjak
There are a couple of things.

One is party voter suppression is a very real thing. I happen to live in a very badly gerrymandered state. So it forces votes to not matter as much. You generally know who will win what area pretty early on in advance.

Also the number of polling places can be limited depending on who is in power. So certain places will only have one polling area despite them having much higher population densities then similar sized areas that with much lower populations. This can lead to long wait times.

We also don't get time off for going to vote. Yeah companies have to let you go vote but you lose out on salary. So a lot of people either can't go vote in the morning because they can't be late for work and end up trying to go afterwards. Of course if they work late they probably won't be able to make it before the polls close.

There is also transportation issues. Faulty voting ID laws that tend to hit the poorer populace more making it harder for them vote.

Honestly I think of the first things we need to do is make election day a day or 2 holiday. We also need to keep the early voting standards we kind of ramped up during this pandemic.

After that you can put on a nationwide campaign to turn voting into a party day with the voting stations.

It's almost like they don't want certain people to vote, huh.

Originally posted by -Pr-
It's almost like they don't want certain people to vote, huh.

Originally posted by Robtard
They'll support Trump as long as he's POTUS, then once he's out they'll start their marketing campaign to remake themselves. "We were never really Trump supporters and the GOP didn't become the party of Trump." Kinda like what Paul Ryan did after he rage-quit out of office.

Originally posted by Newjak
Here is another video showing the white car behind the bus first. There is no good transition of what transpired between that point and the truck and SUV coming into contact.

I'm willing to bet that either right lane was ending and the two lanes merged together creating an issue or the bus was trying to get into the left lane and the SUV was trying not to get separated from it.

Not sure who is to really blame. If it the later the white SUV would technically be at fault. If it's the former it would technically be the truck. Either way I'm willing to bet the Trump Truck was being super aggressive with space considering how close the white SUV was trying to stay to the bus and decided they wanted to wedge themselves behind the bus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWjK_Eu8uME&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=BloombergQuickTake%3ANow

Being there first is irrelevant since at one point the suv was no longer behind it. Blame it on merging or lane changes, clearly at one point the white suv was no longer behind the bus. You can see it then trying to reclaim that position through force which it had no right to do.

You can try to claim the suv is just reacting to aggression, but the video posted just doesn't show it. It's quite possible they are and these trumpers were as bad as claimed. Yet as far as I can tell there is no evidence of the main claim, which is that trumpers were trying to run the bus off the road.

Trump's right-wing militias will try to intimidate voters, we know these fascists and LARPers will shoot... They've done it before!

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Trump's right-wing militias will try to intimidate voters, we know these fascists and LARPers will shoot... They've done it before!

It's not like the alt left hasn't tried to intimidate people.

Either way there is a difference between trying to intimidate someone and running them off the road.

It's certainly possible they did try to run the bus off the road, but these days? We absolutely need proof to back up such claims.

Originally posted by Surtur
It's not like the alt left hasn't tried to intimidate people.

Either way there is a difference between trying to intimidate someone and running them off the road.

It's certainly possible they did try to run the bus off the road, but these days? We absolutely need proof to back up such claims.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
They aren't usually far-right Larpers with automatic weapons... Hopefully, the time for these idiots is coming and America will save its soul. Brave Americans don't let the right-wingers with Automatic weapons dressed for call of duty intimidate you, face them bravely, as you faced the British in Washington in 1812 or hopefully more so.

No they're just far left larpers with bricks and firebombs.

Yes I agree with you hopefully the time is coming for the far left and right, neither have any place in this country. Agreed 👆