The Legacy of Trump and Trumpers! MAGA

Originally posted by Mindship
IMO (and psychologically speaking), Trump will be remembered as the president who embraced America's shadow, the haters that Reagan, the Bushes, and the pre-Trump Republican party disowned. But Trump saw power there and grabbed it. To that end, I give credit where credit is due. He knows how to pick a mark.

And those Trumpublicans: they will be remembered as yet another example in history of how easily the masses can be manipulated.

And (if Biden wins), Americans will be remembered as the nation that showed the world how it's done: how you push back against an autocratic grab for power, against a destroyer and his cult.

Hopefully, the Dems, that bumbling, dithering Keystone Kop party -- if they win -- will learn some lessons themselves on how best to wield power and not cater to the extremes.

Oh I really like this question. I think there is a few different areas to address.

First from a societal standard I think Trump will be similar to Bush and Reagan. His supporters will remember him fondly. Nostalgia will make them forget all the terrible parts of his presidency. If he loses his second term they may even wax poetic about all the possibilities his second term could have had. You can already see this happening now to some extent. It will be even worse in 20 years when all his supporters remember is the good stuff.

After that though I don't think history will be kind to him. He will be remembered as the president, whose policies, created a humanitarian nightmare on the Southern Border. Who oversaw one of, if not the worst, response of a country to the 2020-2021 Covid-19 pandemic. He may even be used as lessons of what not to do by leadership in a crisis of any kind. He will be remembered as the president who oversaw a costly tax deduction that increased income inequality and sent the deficit soaring again.

In the social sciences I think people will study his presidency as, maybe not the final chapter of, but the logical conclusion of what Reagan stated with using Patriotism as a political tool. I think it would be fascinating to see that breakdown showing the progression from Reagan to Bush Jr to Trump where so many people voted against their own best interests simple because of Merica. How it got progressively worse where it was used as a viable tactic to undermine legitimate discussions like systemic racism in America.

It will also be interesting to see how long that lasts past the Trump presidency.

Originally posted by Mindship
IMO (and psychologically speaking), Trump will be remembered as the president who embraced America's shadow, the haters that Reagan, the Bushes, and the pre-Trump Republican party disowned. But Trump saw power there and grabbed it. To that end, I give credit where credit is due. He knows how to pick a mark.

And those Trumpublicans: they will be remembered as yet another example in history of how easily the masses can be manipulated.

And (if Biden wins), Americans will be remembered as the nation that showed the world how it's done: how you push back against an autocratic grab for power, against a destroyer and his cult.

Hopefully, the Dems, that bumbling, dithering Keystone Kop party -- if they win -- will learn some lessons themselves on how best to wield power and not cater to the extremes.

Originally posted by Newjak
Oh I really like this question. I think there is a few different areas to address.

First from a societal standard I think Trump will be similar to Bush and Reagan. His supporters will remember him fondly. Nostalgia will make them forget all the terrible parts of his presidency. If he loses his second term they may even wax poetic about all the possibilities his second term could have had. You can already see this happening now to some extent. It will be even worse in 20 years when all his supporters remember is the good stuff.

After that though I don't think history will be kind to him. He will be remembered as the president, whose policies, created a humanitarian nightmare on the Southern Border. Who oversaw one of, if not the worst, response of a country to the 2020-2021 Covid-19 pandemic. He may even be used as lessons of what not to do by leadership in a crisis of any kind. He will be remembered as the president who oversaw a costly tax deduction that increased income inequality and sent the deficit soaring again.

In the social sciences I think people will study his presidency as, maybe not the final chapter of, but the logical conclusion of what Reagan stated with using Patriotism as a political tool. I think it would be fascinating to see that breakdown showing the progression from Reagan to Bush Jr to Trump where so many people voted against their own best interests simple because of Merica. How it got progressively worse where it was used as a viable tactic to undermine legitimate discussions like systemic racism in America.

It will also be interesting to see how long that lasts past the Trump presidency.

So many things I almost forgot the impeachment part. His impeachment will probably hold legal sway in such matters for years to come.

Also history will probably think he got away with one for that. Historians will probably talk things like the extreme political grandstanding in the congressional investigations. They will talk about how witnesses were not allowed to testify.

Originally posted by Newjak
So many things I almost forgot the impeachment part. His impeachment will probably hold legal sway in such matters for years to come.

Also history will probably think he got away with one for that. Historians will probably talk things like the extreme political grandstanding in the congressional investigations. They will talk about how witnesses were not allowed to testify.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Do you think he has got away with things, do you think people will go after him when he is voted out? Could America search its soul that deeply?

I'd be incredibly surprised if anything happened to him after his presidency.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Me personally, I will always view Trump as the CONFIRMED ANTICHRIST and his supporters as DEPLORABLE LOCUSTS OF THE ABYSS, but they'll probably be lucky, so the rest of the world will just view them as pathetic losers 👆

Originally posted by Newjak
Oh yeah I think the wolves are coming for him.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I hope so, but your faith in due process is greater than mine, I'm from the UK, I've lived in some funny places and I do believe some people are above the law for a variety of reasons. I include past British prime ministers in that.

Yeah, like war criminals that are somehow still in the Labour party, while decent politicians that point out political bias in the establishment are suspended....just as an example...

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
do you think people will go after him when he is voted out?

Originally posted by Newjak
Oh yeah I think the wolves are coming for him.

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But ... must be said: he ain't lost yet.

Originally posted by Mindship
Unquestionably. Losing an election is embarrassing enough; for someone as thin-skinned as him, even worse. But I'm sure what has him most scared is the 16-20 criminal investigations set to go or already ongoing, into him, his family, his businesses. His life has caught up with him, and it's time to pay the piper.

Exactly how I've been phrasing it to family and friends.

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But ... must be said: he ain't lost yet.

Originally posted by Silent Master
LOL 🤣 🤣 😂

Cope harder.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
perfects post.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
perfect post

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Cope harder.

👆 ✅ ❤️ 💯

Originally posted by Artol
Yeah, like war criminals that are somehow still in the Labour party, while decent politicians that point out political bias in the establishment are suspended....just as an example...

Originally posted by Mindship
Unquestionably. Losing an election is embarrassing enough; for someone as thin-skinned as him, even worse. But I'm sure what has him most scared is the 16-20 criminal investigations set to go or already ongoing, into him, his family, his businesses. His life has caught up with him, and it's time to pay the piper.

Exactly how I've been phrasing it to family and friends.

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But ... must be said: he ain't lost yet.

Originally posted by Mindship
Unquestionably. Losing an election is embarrassing enough; for someone as thin-skinned as him, even worse. But I'm sure what has him most scared is the 16-20 criminal investigations set to go or already ongoing, into him, his family, his businesses. His life has caught up with him, and it's time to pay the piper.

Lock him up. Lock him up.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
His followers? Rob, how will history see these people?

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Yup 👆 I hope so, and no, he hasn't gone yet, like the Trumpers and right wing gaslighters here he will fight to the end. No matter how beaten and humiliated.

The fourth option, DON'T VOTE FOR TRUMP, was unfortunately taken off the table a couple days ago

Originally posted by ares834
Lock him up. Lock him up.

Trump should have locked Hillary up. Because now her faction will do a chance to do the same to him, and THEY MAY BE MORE MOTIVATED TO FOLLOW THROUGH.....

Originally posted by Mindship
IMO (and psychologically speaking), Trump will be remembered as the president who embraced America's shadow, the haters that Reagan, the Bushes, and the pre-Trump Republican party disowned. But Trump saw power there and grabbed it. To that end, I give credit where credit is due. He knows how to pick a mark.

And those Trumpublicans: they will be remembered as yet another example in history of how easily the masses can be manipulated.

And (if Biden wins), Americans will be remembered as the nation that showed the world how it's done: how you push back against an autocratic grab for power, against a destroyer and his cult.

Hopefully, the Dems, that bumbling, dithering Keystone Kop party -- if they win -- will learn some lessons themselves on how best to wield power and not cater to the extremes.

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