There is also evidence of pro-Trump people planning attacks.
2 Virginia men arrested in Philadelphia in alleged plot to attack ballot-counting station
Pennsylvania results horror as police swoop on armed man 'plotting attack' at vote count
Gee, I wonder who might have given them that idea...
Originally posted by RobtardHe is a scum bag, the media who called the extreme idiocy, got it spot on.
There is also evidence of pro-Trump people planning attacks.2 Virginia men arrested in Philadelphia in alleged plot to attack ballot-counting station
Pennsylvania results horror as police swoop on armed man 'plotting attack' at vote count
Gee, I wonder who might have given them that idea...
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnaeAlex Jones, Star?
I could post actual videos but I get the feeling it would just be dismissed by the usual suspects as "fake news" or "crazy conspiracy videos" or something.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Are you seriously going to make me go to the trouble of posting the videos of all the cheating shenanigans? You already know a lot of them as you showed when you posted all of those links in the other thread.
No, I've seen them. Biden's camp can just as easily claim they were throwing out Biden votes. Or messing with Biden votes. It's all flimsy arguments. Nothing concrete. Unless Alex Jones' stuff is true, there's no way to prove this.
And I knew that guy was full of shit when he said they knew where all the ballots were and if people threw them away: no tech exists that can communicate like that and go undetected. It requires too much energy and other people would be able to pick up the signals even if it was encrypted. We'd know.
Sure. This could be done with a passive RFID but you have to get within 30 feet. How do they plan on doing that to pick up all the ballots with hidden RFIDs?
Originally posted by dadudemon
No, I've seen them. Biden's camp can just as easily claim they were throwing out Biden votes. Or messing with Biden votes. It's all flimsy arguments. Nothing concrete. Unless Alex Jones' stuff is true, there's no way to prove this.And I knew that guy was full of shit when he said they knew where all the ballots were and if people threw them away: no tech exists that can communicate like that and go undetected. It requires too much energy and other people would be able to pick up the signals even if it was encrypted. We'd know.
Sure. This could be done with a passive RFID but you have to get within 30 feet. How do they plan on doing that to pick up all the ballots with hidden RFIDs?
Even if Biden could make that argument that they were throwing out his votes, it still shows that there was some shady shit going on in the election and thus it should be invalidated. Regardless of which candidate is being cheated the American public deserves a fair and clean election.
As for that guy in that video you posted I still haven't made up my mind whether to believe him or not but I'm skeptical of his claims. It'd be nice if it were true though.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Even if Biden could make that argument that they were throwing out his votes, it still shows that there was some shady shit going on in the election and thus it should be invalidated. Regardless of which candidate is being cheated the American public deserves a fair and clean election.As for that guy in that video you posted I still haven't made up my mind whether to believe him or not but I'm skeptical of his claims. It'd be nice if it were true though.
So, in your opinion, if we can invalidate the election, then what?
Redo the election in the battleground states? It would go to the house and senate if they are still in dispute. I posted about this in the other thread and there are already multiple cases that set precedence for how this would be handled if the results are still in dispute.
The Dems control the House. GOP controls the Senate. I don't think escalating to congress will result in a decision. I don't know if Trump's tantrum's will delay things long enough for it to escalate to congress to make the final decision.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
I don't know what the solution should be. I just know that if the election as it apparently stands right now is allowed to stand even with all of the dubious stuff that went on during it then many Americans will never truly trust the election process ever again.
It'll be ok, I promise🙂
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
I don't know what the solution should be. I just know that if the election as it apparently stands right now is allowed to stand even with all of the questionable stuff that went on during it then many Americans will never truly trust the election process ever again.
Until we have electronic voting with nonrepudiation, there's no way to build trust back into the election.
We've had electronic solutions that are very safe, secure, and fast since the 90s. We solved the encryption and nonrepudiation issues with things like this way back in the day after the DES and RSA weakness stuff.
Originally posted by dadudemon
That definitely describes American politics."My warmonger sexual predator beat your warmonger sexual predator!"
👆 Basically.
I just really hope people temper their expectations. They're acting like Biden getting in (assuming he does) will be like Frodo destroying the One Ring. Shit doesn't change overnight (if at all) irl.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Until we have electronic voting with nonrepudiation, there's no way to build trust back into the election.We've had electronic solutions that are very safe, secure, and fast since the 90s. We solved the encryption and nonrepudiation issues with things like this way back in the day after the DES and RSA weakness stuff.
It disgusts me that I understood that. ****ing Security+
Originally posted by dadudemon
Until we have electronic voting with nonrepudiation, there's no way to build trust back into the election.We've had electronic solutions that are very safe, secure, and fast since the 90s. We solved the encryption and nonrepudiation issues with things like this way back in the day after the DES and RSA weakness stuff.
Ok then, then no one should whine when Trump supporters say they don't trust these election results.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
I don't know what the solution should be. I just know that if the election as it apparently stands right now is allowed to stand even with all of the questionable stuff that went on during it then many Americans will never truly trust the election process ever again.
Originally posted by -Pr-
It disgusts me that I understood that. ****ing Security+
A fellow cybersecurity-nerd?!?!
WTF?
That cert I just passed? It was the CISM. And it was the hardest cert exam I've ever taken. It was harder than the PMP. I'm about to take the CISSP at the end of this month or beginning of next month.
But, I'll tell you this: the only certification exam I've ever failed (I now have 14 certs) was the Security +. I got a 690 the first time I took it. You need a 700 to pass. Generally, each question is worth 5 points so that means I failed it by 2 questions. The Security+ is like mixing in the Server+, A+, Network+, in addition to a bunch of security specific stuff, all in one exam. It's a rather frustratingly technical exam. I passed it the second time with a score of over 900 by just going through tons of exam questions.
The questions that killed me were the "choose all x that fits category y" and 2-3 of the choices out of the 6 are definitely correct but you can't figure out the last one. Utterly ruined me.