Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
She could lasso Thor, and yeah she is relatively much faster than him, but that doesn't mean Thor is helpless. Mjolnir has shown the capability to operate on its own, and Thor can break out of the lasso and continue fighting.
What proof Thor can break out of the lasso?
WW can defend against Mjolnir easily.
Hell, she might be worthy (in JL vs Avengers she proved to be but that isn't usable here).
Originally posted by h1a8
What proof Thor can break out of the lasso?
WW can defend against Mjolnir easily.
Hell, she might be worthy (in JL vs Avengers she proved to be but that isn't usable here).
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Just saying, People like Supergirl have already snapped out of the lasso when wrapped, and Thor has used his powers without any requirement for Mjolnir or extensive hand movement. Diana would have to wrap it well to pull it off. Supergirl was wrapped on a complex wrap and still broke free so that's there.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Just saying, People like Supergirl have already snapped out of the lasso when wrapped, and Thor has used his powers without any requirement for Mjolnir or extensive hand movement. Diana would have to wrap it well to pull it off. Supergirl was wrapped on a complex wrap and still broke free so that's there.
Thor is not Supergirl. He doesn't get her feats. The lasso isn't slippery or elastic from force being applied to it from other beings (in most showings). So that was a low showing, as you will, for the lasso.
Thor can't do anything if he's a statue. Think about it. Even if Diana allows him to attack first. How would he tag her if she sees it coming? And what about her sword? That's potentially an instant kill.
Originally posted by h1a8
Thor is not Supergirl. He doesn't get her feats. The lasso isn't slippery or elastic from force being applied to it from other beings (in most showings). So that was a low showing, as you will, for the lasso.Thor can't do anything if he's a statue. Think about it. Even if Diana allows him to attack first. How would he tag her if she sees it coming? And what about her sword? That's potentially an instant kill.
We don't know if the lasso can subdue him with 100% certainty. Moving onwards instead of beating a dead horse. What happens if this becomes a real fight instead of being stuck here arguing that he'd be helpless to resist something that others have resisted in the past.
Bizarro, but not sure if that was canon? I may not remember, but during DOS, did Diana lasso Doomsday, or get thrown by him while using the lasso on him? Again I can't completely recall the full details. My entire comic collection is at my brothers house in Canada, so I can't actually go and check. I also don't know about the Supergirl instance that Alberto is citing, but if she broke free of the lasso's influence, it isn't a guaranteed win.
Originally posted by h1a8
Thor is not Supergirl. He doesn't get her feats. The lasso isn't slippery or elastic from force being applied to it from other beings (in most showings). So that was a low showing, as you will, for the lasso.Thor can't do anything if he's a statue. Think about it. Even if Diana allows him to attack first. How would he tag her if she sees it coming? And what about her sword? That's potentially an instant kill.
Mentioning Supergirl was an example of having enough strength to break out of the lasso. Diana wrapped the lasso around Supergirl in a complex way, entrapping her hands and she still broke out. So if Supergirl could do it, then Thor who is at minimum equally stronger (and an experienced warrior) will be able to break out. The lasso won't keep him out for long, and Mjolnir is also there for any assists.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Mentioning Supergirl was an example of having enough strength to break out of the lasso. Diana wrapped the lasso around Supergirl in a complex way, entrapping her hands and she still broke out. So if Supergirl could do it, then Thor who is at minimum equally stronger (and an experienced warrior) will be able to break out. The lasso won't keep him out for long, and Mjolnir is also there for any assists.
You ignored what I said. That was a low showing for the lasso as its not shown to be like a rubberband when enemies try to get out. It has held stronger beings than Supergirl. So both kill that argument.
Originally posted by Stoic
Bizarro, but not sure if that was canon? I may not remember, but during DOS, did Diana lasso Doomsday, or get thrown by him while using the lasso on him? Again I can't completely recall the full details. My entire comic collection is at my brothers house in Canada, so I can't actually go and check. I also don't know about the Supergirl instance that Alberto is citing, but if she broke free of the lasso's influence, it isn't a guaranteed win.
2. No, DOS Doomsday never did. You're thinking of Brainiac when he mind controlled Doomsday - there was context involved.
3. Supergirl is the only one that might be used - but having Supergirl as the sole low showing of the lasso doesn't bode well for Thor. Supergirl after all was able to fight the Flash at superspeed.
Thor's low showings? I'm not going to go there. But all I am pointing out is that if we apply low showings to one, it should be consistent.