Originally posted by FrothByte
1. Thanos - 10
2. Hulk - 9
3. Kurse - 10
4. Thor - 8
5. Vision - 8
6. Drax - 5
7. Spiderman - 5
8. Black Panther - 3
9. Captain America - 3
10. Iron Man - 7
11. Groot - 5
12. Ronan - 7
13. Loki - 7
Sounds about right, though I don't see why Loki is rated so high. He has no strength feats that I can't remember.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Panther has the heart-shaped-herb (just like his comic counterpart), which enhances him in a similar way that SSS does to Steve, yes.For example, they were shown sprinting at the same speed (surpassing human levels) in the Infinity War.
Makes sense. I previously put his speed down to movie-magic "training / skills".
Re: Rank these MCU characters 1-10 Based on physical Strength
Originally posted by HumbleServant
Rank them 1-10 with 10 being the strongest. Thanos at Base is 10
1. Thanos. 9
2. Hulk. 8
3. Kurse. 10
4. Thor. 7
5. Vision. 4-5
6. Drax. 4-5
7. Spiderman. 5
8. Black Panther. 3
9. Captain America. 3
10. Iron Man. 4-5
11. Groot. ? 4 maybe
12. Ronan. ? 5
13. Loki. 5-6
Originally posted by riv6672
The Cap fight was the only thing I could really think of for Loki.
I guess getting ragdolled by the Hulk would count as a durability feat.
The fight in Av1 showed Loki isn't too far from Thor in strength.
Originally posted by Kovert Potato
If you mean in Avengers 1, it was more of a weapon fight than H2H against Cap. He was using his staff.Not sure when he stalemated Thor, but it would be an outlier.
It is that's why I rated him weaker than Thor (Thor is a 7 and Loki is about a 5).
It definitely needs to be pointed out that Thor was holding back a lot in his fights with Loki. Not only does he say as much, but considering Thor can actually give Hulk a fight, while Loki gets ragdolled speaks volumes. And we've only seen Loki beat up Avengers 1 Cap, waaay before he started to have his strength creep which could have changed the dynamics if they fought a second or third time. He loves his brother and despite everything never wanted to hurt or get him in trouble, he only wanted him to do the right thing.
Loki is a runt of a Frost Giant who was primarily trained in magic by Frigga. It makes no sense that he'd be physically stronger than full grown Frost Giants who were getting one shot by Thor like they were scrubs. So I'll say Loki is near an Asgardian in strength, but nowhere near Thor who is only surpassed by Hela and possibly Odin in his prime(we never see any physical feats from him).
Re: Re: Rank these MCU characters 1-10 Based on physical Strength
Originally posted by h1a8
1. Thanos. 9
2. Hulk. 8
3. Kurse. 10
4. Thor. 7
5. Vision. 4-5
6. Drax. 4-5
7. Spiderman. 5
8. Black Panther. 3
9. Captain America. 3
10. Iron Man. 4-5
11. Groot. ? 4 maybe
12. Ronan. ? 5
13. Loki. 5-6
You've got Ronan and Drax at nearly the same when Ronan absolutely wrecked Drax with almost zero effort in GotG.
Originally posted by Psychotron
Sounds about right, though I don't see why Loki is rated so high. He has no strength feats that I can't remember.
Well he was still strong enough to grab Thor by the nape of his neck and smash his face against the railing of Stark building. So while Thor is clearly stronger than Loki, it doesn't seem like Loki is too far behind.
Also, Cap couldn't budge Loki at all despite landing heavy shots. In comparison, Cap was still able to move Spidey with his hits, so I think it's clear that Loki is higher than Spidey.
I guess it's possible Loki would be a 6 instead of a 7, but if I rated Spidey a 5 then I wouldn't rate Loki less than a 6 considering how they both performed against Cap. 7 still seems more reasonable.
Originally posted by KingD19
It definitely needs to be pointed out that Thor was holding back a lot in his fights with Loki. Not only does he say as much, but considering Thor can actually give Hulk a fight, while Loki gets ragdolled speaks volumes. And we've only seen Loki beat up Avengers 1 Cap, waaay before he started to have his strength creep which could have changed the dynamics if they fought a second or third time. He loves his brother and despite everything never wanted to hurt or get him in trouble, he only wanted him to do the right thing.Loki is a runt of a Frost Giant who was primarily trained in magic by Frigga. It makes no sense that he'd be physically stronger than full grown Frost Giants who were getting one shot by Thor like they were scrubs. So I'll say Loki is near an Asgardian in strength, but nowhere near Thor who is only surpassed by Hela and possibly Odin in his prime(we never see any physical feats from him).
1. Endgame Cap almost lost to Avengers Cap, which disproves the stength creep you mentioned.
2. Loki never fought Hulk. He got blindisded by Hulk.
3. Loki handled Cap way better than Spiderman, which should put him comfortably stronger than Spidey.
4. Thor holds back against Loki but the fact that he needs to take Loki seriously in order to beat him proves that Loki is pretty close to his strength.
5. Loki holds back against Thor too, as there were multiple instances where he could have landed killing shots against Thor but usually just stabs him in the side.
Originally posted by FrothByte
1. Endgame Cap almost lost to Avengers Cap, which disproves the stength creep you mentioned.
Could easily be explained by Avengers Cap retroactively benefiting from the strength creep.
If I surmise KingD's meaning of the term correctly, then the concept itself is on a meta level, determined by the writer, not a natural in-movie explanation. If Endgame Cap is shown to be stronger than Avengers Cap, then that would make no sense to viewers (unless explained by more experience).