Rank these guys 1-10 based on H2H skill (MCU & DCEU & Fox)

Originally posted by FrothByte
If you're going to throw a fit everytime someone debates your points, then vs. forums are probably not for you.

No fits thrown at you. I was annoyed by Silent Master because he responded to a reasoned argument with one line as if it refuted anything, and which by the way, wasn't even correct.

I charged you exactly with ignoring my points, not debating them.

I'm not sure if you can't grasp the logic of this or that you don't know what a debate is.

You keep presenting your arguments without addressing your opponents. How do you think a conclusion will ever be reached? It won't. You'll be saying the exact same things you said at the start at the end. It's a waste of your time too, I'm saving both of us from the pointless exercise.

I responded to you down playing the Shield agents, if you can't handle being corrected. Stop being wrong

Originally posted by Silent Master
I responded to you down playing the Shield agents, if you can't handle being corrected. Stop being wrong

You responded in one sentence, essentially by saying "no, SHIELD Agents are skilled".

Simply responding doesn't mean anything has been addressed.

You didn't address any of my points. To do so would require you to quote each argument I conveniently numbered for you, and respond to each in a relevant way that shows the flaw in my argument.

You replied with one line. There is no way that the 7 questions/points I raised were answered.

Can you imagine doing this in a live debate or in a court of law? Your opponent spends some time presenting various different line of arguments, and when its your turn to respond, you say one sentence, and in your mind, you've addressed everything and made a good showing for yourself. Your opponent (me) could be wrong, but don't pretend like you proved it. That's why this isn't a debate. Is it that hard to see?

It reminds me of politics in recent times.

One sentence was all that was required to prove you wrong

Originally posted by Kovert Potato
No fits thrown at you. I was annoyed by Silent Master because he responded to a reasoned argument with one line as if it refuted anything, and which by the way, wasn't even correct.

I charged you exactly with ignoring my points, not debating them.

I'm not sure if you can't grasp the logic of this or that you don't know what a debate is.

You keep presenting your arguments without addressing your opponents. How do you think a conclusion will ever be reached? It won't. You'll be saying the exact same things you said at the start at the end. It's a waste of your time too, I'm saving both of us from the pointless exercise.

I did not neglect your points, I simply gave a bigger argument that made your points moot. There's no point in me addressing your nitpicks when you keep failing to grasp the bigger point I'm making which is:

Batman defeated a bunch of random fodder. Thor has done the same thing as well as the other characters in this fight. The main difference is that the others have better feats than just this and Thor in particular has far better feats than just beating fodder unlike Batman.

So please stop complaining about people not addressing your points because your points are completely outweighed by the greater argument which is: Batman has less impressive feats than Thor.

Also, here's a clip that shows Thor is not simply a brawler as you stated:

https://youtu.be/bmKYj-9J8SA

Bruce defeated featless thugs hes at the bottom of the list

Originally posted by Kovert Potato
Like most people, you are probably are not discounting super speed and strength that the other characters benefit from.

If you have extra speed combined with skill, of course you are going to appear more skilled than someone who doesn't.

Ask yourself if you were to take away all their powers, with all stats equalized with the weakest character here, who would win?

Another argument to think about - put de-powered Thor in the abandoned warehouse Batman was in. Does he clear it as easily as Batman does? I will even change the scenario to all thugs being unarmed.

His fight with Hulk showed skill, his fight with the three asgardians showed better skill than anything Batman did. Also, his opponents are far and away better and more powerful than many on here faced

Originally posted by Silent Master
I responded to you down playing the Shield agents, if you can't handle being corrected. Stop being wrong