Superman vs Knull

Started by AlbertoJohnAvil39 pages

There's also Superman getting a nosebleed from 60,000gs (boxers punching is 53gs) 😂 👍

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Supes was in the Earth's core in that scan, so his temperature is sub-earth core level.

N52 it was 5K max. It's the pressure that makes it powerful, not the heat itself.

Earth core can be as hot as the Sun, so fair enough 🙂

N52 isn't in this thread though, alas. And P52 feats are admissible for Rebirth 🙂

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Erm, you might want to re read your handbook scan.

"When the imbalance reaches a critical point....producing depending on the original mass of star, a neutron star, black hole, OR (emphasis mine) point singularity".

White holes are the re-entrance of point singularities, NOT black holes. Good scan, though.

White holes are =/= the exit point of black holes, but the exit points of point singularities, which Marvel has defined as different to black holes and thus, black holes=/=white holes.

But your scan DID show that Binary at any one point can limit the amount of energy she can draw upon, based on the window she opens. So how large was this when she faced Thanos, please?

Ok. So you say that a point singularity is something different and a white hole is different right? These are more extreme than mere black holes and black hole exit points. Now neither point singularities nor white holes are mentioned in the Superman feat. So it's a bit irrelevant to that. They are forged by something labeled as a type of "black hole".

We see Surfer and other characters go through singularities and exit to other universes, thus they are going through something more extreme than a standard black hole. Thus, they survive force greater than what forged the chains.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Earth core can be as hot as the Sun, so fair enough 🙂

N52 isn't in this thread though, alas. And P52 feats are admissible for Rebirth 🙂

😂 You're an idiot, Supes wasn't even in the Inner core. He was in the outer core. He only entered in the inner core the issue after:

Originally posted by Diesldude
I post here school clowns like you, JBL, carter snd thehulkster. No one that I know of is as stupid as you 4 so I find it a good deed to educate you idiots.

You don't school jack, which is precisely why emo simpletons like you need to yell it out hoping to convince someone.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
And yet we have confirmation in my scan above for his heat vision. It's 5k max. Take it up with the writers
no it’s not any sort of confirmation you’d idiot. They weren’t measuring. Read the scan again. He needs max heat vision of at least 5k degrees. That’s not saying it’s Superman’s max. And how would he know you dummy. You an idiot troll don’t try to break down scans you’ve seen somewhere else because you always get them wrong

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 You're an idiot, Supes wasn't even in the Inner core. He was in the outer core. He only entered in the inner core the issue after:

I don’t know why your insulting DS I don’t think he’s ever insulted you.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Ok. So you say that a point singularity is something different and a white hole is different right? These are more extreme than mere black holes and black hole exit points. Now neither point singularities nor white holes are mentioned in the Superman feat. So it's a bit irrelevant to that. They are forged by something labeled as a type of "black hole".

We see Surfer and other characters go through singularities and exit to other universes, thus they are going through something more extreme than a standard black hole. Thus, they survive force greater than what forged the chains.

so again the chains are forged in infinite gravity. We know that surfer and other characters can’t stay in a black hole event horizon for long let alone under the pressure of survive infinite gravity. But you bring up the chaos being forged in infinite gravity as some sort of a weakness. Why can’t you answer why what the chains are used for? Hauling stars across galaxies. Chains that don’t snap with a star on one side and ship engines on the other side pulling it. That’s multiple
Stellar weight and then dragging them at light speed across galaxies and they don’t snap. But Superman did. Easily.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Ok. So you say that a point singularity is something different and a white hole is different right? These are more extreme than mere black holes and black hole exit points. Now neither point singularities nor white holes are mentioned in the Superman feat. So it's a bit irrelevant to that. They are forged by something labeled as a type of "black hole".

We see Surfer and other characters go through singularities and exit to other universes, thus they are going through something more extreme than a standard black hole. Thus, they survive force greater than what forged the chains.

They do? Feel free to post the scans. I mean, in Marvel we have Cosmo - a mere dog - and the Starjammers in black holes. Maybe you're right, I was wrong to go down this rabbit hole, as black and white holes in Marvel are obviously weak.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 You're an idiot, Supes wasn't even in the Inner core. He was in the outer core. He only entered in the inner core the issue after:

I'm an idiot?

Oh my.

I'm still unsure how this all relates to my original post, which you haven't rebutted 🙂

Originally posted by Diesldude
no it’s not any sort of confirmation you’d idiot. They weren’t measuring. Read the scan again. He needs max heat vision of at least 5k degrees. That’s not saying it’s Superman’s max. And how would he know you dummy. You an idiot troll don’t try to break down scans you’ve seen somewhere else because you always get them wrong

None of that addresses anything I just said.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm an idiot?

Oh my.

I'm still unsure how this all relates to my original post, which you haven't rebutted 🙂

What post? You USED a showing from billions of years in the past as if has any relevance to Knull now. It doesn't. There's zero proof Bfr still works now

Originally posted by Diesldude
so again the chains are forged in infinite gravity. We know that surfer and other characters can’t stay in a black hole event horizon for long let alone under the pressure of survive infinite gravity. But you bring up the chaos being forged in infinite gravity as some sort of a weakness. Why can’t you answer why what the chains are used for? Hauling stars across galaxies. Chains that don’t snap with a star on one side and ship engines on the other side pulling it. That’s multiple
Stellar weight and then dragging them at light speed across galaxies and they don’t snap. But Superman did. Easily.

It took you months to man up and mention that chains feat in my presence, seems like you want a round 5 of getting schooled on it huh? Go ahead, tell us why that feat is impressive again so i can debunk it 😂 You never just learn

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
None of that addresses anything I just said.
always have dumb things down for you. I addressed the scan you posted and it addressed your misinterpretation of it.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
It took you months to man up and mention that chains feat in my presence, seems like you want a round 5 of getting schooled on it huh? Go ahead, tell us why that feat is impressive again so i can debunk it 😂 You never just learn
the phuck? Not only can’t you read but you got terrible memory. You got put to sleep on that thread and you ran. Look it up. You ran.

Originally posted by Diesldude
so again the chains are forged in infinite gravity. We know that surfer and other characters can’t stay in a black hole event horizon for long let alone under the pressure of survive infinite gravity. But you bring up the chaos being forged in infinite gravity as some sort of a weakness. Why can’t you answer why what the chains are used for? Hauling stars across galaxies. Chains that don’t snap with a star on one side and ship engines on the other side pulling it. That’s multiple
Stellar weight and then dragging them at light speed across galaxies and they don’t snap. But Superman did. Easily.

That he does it "easily" is false. And spaceship engines being able to pull the stars is odd.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I dont think they were meant to be mini.
A sun/star is so big it's hard to put it to scale. Plus Trad Moore's art is highly stylized.
Look at most comics involving suns. The scale is usually not correct. It's faulty to argue sun size here.
For all intents and purposes, though infant these are fully fledged suns/stars.

No, they aren't. That's why Surfer takes Galactus to a dwarf star when he wanted to kill him.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
And Supermanm isn't ripping anyone "apart"

Hes consistently portrayed as a mid tier despite how many out of context space cheese hes got


😂

That's way back in the past before Jon was born.

What does the dwarf star have to do with the suns he was creating?