Originally posted by -Pr-
You're asking for a consistency in comics that simply doesn't exist with the majority of characters. It's not a Superman-specific problem.I actually agree with you on that, even if I don't agree on what power level he should be, I'll bet.
Only to you. Opinions differ.
How? His whole schtick is that he was raised human, so why not ACTUALLY make him act like a human???
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Let me make this simple. Do you remember rocky boxing that big russian? Did you see how rocky was getting wrecked by that russian yet was " tanking " the blows? Rocky didn't go down as "scripted". Now take that fight and put it on a battleboard without it being scripted, and rocky would have either gotten killed or the ref would have stopped the fight. Superman and other hero's do the same thing in comics, they are allowed to win in comics because we already know who going to win in the end. Now let's go to battle boards, battle boards are not scripted, the hero is not going to save the day there. the writer does not have a predetermined winner on battle boards. You Superman fans try to transfer a scripted comic over to battle boards. It's like in a movie they allow my stock Corvette Callaway to be outrun by a stock Nissan Altima. Now let's take those two cars out of the movie and to a real-life track. Now you Superman fans are going to go by what happened in the movie. Why? Because you want that Nissan Altima to win, but at the track, that Altima gets destroyed. But you Superman fans still cling on to what happened in the movie. That's the way y'all do Superman. Now since rocky all of a sudden started winning a scripted battle, he now has dynamic strength. Sounds familiar?
So you acknowledge that he has no limit.That makes it weird in threads where you argue that he has a limit.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
How? His whole schtick is that he was raised human, so why not ACTUALLY make him act like a human???
...But he does. a lot of the time.
Originally posted by JBL
Let me make this simple. Do you remember rocky boxing that big russian? Did you see how rocky was getting wrecked by that russian yet was " tanking " the blows? Rocky didn't go down as "scripted". Now take that fight and put it on a battleboard without it being scripted, and rocky would have either gotten killed or the ref would have stopped the fight. Superman and other hero's do the same thing in comics, they are allowed to win in comics because we already know who going to win in the end. Now let's go to battle boards, battle boards are not scripted, the hero is not going to save the day there. the writer does not have a predetermined winner on battle boards. You Superman fans try to transfer a scripted comic over to battle boards. It's like in a movie they allow my stock Corvette Callaway to be outrun by a stock Nissan Altima. Now let's take those two cars out of the movie and to a real-life track. Now you Superman fans are going to go by what happened in the movie. Why? Because you want that Nissan Altima to win, but at the track, that Altima gets destroyed. But you Superman fans still cling on to what happened in the movie. That's the way y'all do Superman.
I feel like you're so far wide of the point, that you can't even see the point.
But you're using fictional feats to determine that Drago wins.
Why would Drago, a fictional character, in your logic, destroy Rocky, a fictional character?
Answer: because the fictional movie showed Drago doing fictional feats. None of which was real.
Tomorrow, the film studio can come out and say that Rocky is actually a Terminator robot, and can fly FTL with laser eyes. And you have no choice but to accept it.
Edit: also, what Pr said. You didn't actually see my point at all.
Originally posted by -Pr-
...But he does. a lot of the time.I feel like you're so far wide of the point, that you can't even see the point.
No, he doesn't. him being a monolith of virtue is exactly what's wrong with the character. They need to Break him. Have something happen that shatters his ideals of being a hero. Basically look at Thor from the God butcher arc to the end of war of the realms. Put him in that type of long journey. And knock that cheesey assed childlike optimism off. Make him realized just who the **** he is.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85now you are adding on stuff in that movie. But I see you Superman fan don't get what comics are all about.good things I have people who actually dream up and write these comic for backup. And that's the sad thing about it. You all don't know what you're talking about. I will never forget what one of the writers told me, being allowed to win is not dynamic strength. Every hero and comics do that.yet only one is said to have dynamic strength because of that. Sad really.
But you're using fictional feats to determine that Drago wins.Why would Drago, a fictional character, in your logic, destroy Rocky, a fictional character?
Answer: because the fictional movie showed Drago doing fictional feats. None of which was real.
Tomorrow, the film studio can come out and say that Rocky is actually a Terminator robot, and can fly FTL with laser eyes. And you have no choice but to accept it.
Edit: also, what Pr said. You didn't actually see my point at all.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
No, he doesn't. him being a monolith of virtue is exactly what's wrong with the character. They need to Break him. Have something happen that shatters his ideals of being a hero. Basically look at Thor from the God butcher arc to the end of war of the realms. Put him in that type of long journey. And knock that cheesey assed childlike optimism off. Make him realized just who the **** he is.
Sounds like you just want a brand new character that just still happens to call themselves Superman, while missing the point of what Superman is in the first place.
Originally posted by JBL
now you are adding on stuff in that movie. But I see you Superman fan don't get what comics are all about.good things I have people who actually dream up and write these comic for backup. And that's the sad thing about it. You all don't know what you're talking about. I will never forget what one of the writers told me, being allowed to win is not dynamic strength. Every hero and comics do that.yet only one is said to have dynamic strength because of that. Sad really.
Dude, stop lying. Seriously. I would say it's getting old, but it's not. It got old months ago.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Sounds like you just want a brand new character that just still happens to call themselves Superman, while missing the point of what Superman is in the first place.Dude, stop lying. Seriously. I would say it's getting old, but it's not. It got old months ago.
he never does. He acts like a Sunday School morality lesson. Start with something strong. Have him be almost directly responsible for dozens of deaths in one incident cuz he holds back. Watch him slowly unravel because if it. DC character writing is shit cuz they only care about preserving legacies.
Originally posted by JBL
now you are adding on stuff in that movie. But I see you Superman fan don't get what comics are all about.good things I have people who actually dream up and write these comic for backup. And that's the sad thing about it. You all don't know what you're talking about. I will never forget what one of the writers told me, being allowed to win is not dynamic strength. Every hero and comics do that.yet only one is said to have dynamic strength because of that. Sad really.
This isn't typed, spelled, or punctuated like anyone who owns/manages/has a leadership role in any company other than one that is dreamed up in your head.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
he never does. He acts like a Sunday School morality lesson. Start with something strong. Have him be almost directly responsible for dozens of deaths in one incident cuz he holds back. Watch him slowly unravel because if it. DC character writing is shit cuz they only care about preserving legacies.
That sounds awful. It really does.
You don't want Superman, that much is obvious.
Originally posted by JBL
That would be his fans that exaggerate about him and make false claims. It's amazing how Superman has Dynamic strength, can fight at light speed and beats anybody in their minds, yet have no proof whatsoever. They also move in groups of 7 or more and get caught in lies every day they post. Then they insult others who don't worship Superman. Then they make ridiculous threads hoping their fellow Superman friends take the blame off of them.
Why so you lie so blatantly yet think you're fooling anyone?
Ban Superman from this forum (again), please.
You can still discuss the character here:
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
he never does. He acts like a Sunday School morality lesson. Start with something strong. Have him be almost directly responsible for dozens of deaths in one incident cuz he holds back. Watch him slowly unravel because if it. DC character writing is shit cuz they only care about preserving legacies.
You sound bitter. You must be jealous.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilYou’re talking about Superman. you don’t know what he stands for. If they did what you are asking, they would kill the greatest, most iconic character in comics. You would love that wouldn’t you, so he’s no longer Superman and just like any other character/clone.
he never does. He acts like a Sunday School morality lesson. Start with something strong. Have him be almost directly responsible for dozens of deaths in one incident cuz he holds back. Watch him slowly unravel because if it. DC character writing is shit cuz they only care about preserving legacies.