Originally posted by ares834
Luke obviously.Vader was stronger than Yoda and Luke bested him on RotJ. He’s only grown more powerful since then.
Yoda demolishes Va...
Originally posted by ares834
Of course.Spoiler:
I’m just trying to get a rise out of Stark.
Ohhh that was good. Very good. But not today sir.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
Yeah Vader is overhyped. Idiots were saying he rivalled Sidious because of that dumbass 'strongest Sith' quote only for him to get literally dismantled by him.
Hype aside I reckon Vader is at least Windu level, putting him just a notch beneath ROTS Yoda and Sidious.
That said gotta be careful with quotes because they can be so subjective and open to interpretation. I mean being the best pilot could qualify him as the strongest right?
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Hype aside I reckon Vader is at least Windu level, putting him just a notch beneath ROTS Yoda and Sidious.That said gotta be careful with quotes because they can be so subjective and open to interpretation. I mean being the best pilot could qualify him as the strongest right?
In dueling? How so? Because I feel like his saber fights are lacking compared to his Force...which I find a little odd..
Originally posted by Zenwolf
In dueling? How so? Because I feel like his saber fights are lacking compared to his Force...which I find a little odd..
Just in an All out.
Hes clearly above Dooku and Maul. So I think Mace level is a reasonable assumption.
But yeah his force powers have always seemed more impressive than his duelling (not that hes lost a duel aside from against Luke).
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Just in an All out.Hes clearly above Dooku and Maul. So I think Mace level is a reasonable assumption.
But yeah his force powers have always seemed more impressive than his duelling (not that hes lost a duel aside from against Luke).
Ah yeah I guess all out could be fair.
But yeah, this New Canon his saber skill by comparison to his Force ability...there's a weird gap I feel like.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Just in an All out.Hes clearly above Dooku and Maul. So I think Mace level is a reasonable assumption.
But yeah his force powers have always seemed more impressive than his duelling (not that hes lost a duel aside from against Luke).
If you are clearly above Dooku you are not Mace level since Mace is not clearly above Dooku
Originally posted by Bentley
If you are clearly above Dooku you are not Mace level since Mace is not clearly above Dooku
Hey I hate Mace being > Dooku more than anyone. But he did beat Dookus master in combat. And was confirmed by Lucas as being good enough to do it.
Originally posted by McP
When did Vader show anything that could be on par with Dooku stomping Ventress and Kenobi with his TK? Let alone Sidious and Yoda I mean FEATS against STRONG force users. And no, force push against Ahsoka is not that kind of feat.
Well hes not really faced many Jedi opponents.
But his TK feats from the comics are just on another level.
And in terms of overall power theres plenty of quotes that put him above Dooku. (In Disney canon at least).