RotJ Canon Vader vs RotS Yoda

Started by Scizard2 pages

Sure but the point is Anakin did it better. Impossible to quantify how much Yoda is holding back and if he even is holding back it's hard to say, could just be one of those situations where he's giving it his all but he'll priortise a disarming blow if possible.

Originally posted by Scizard
Sure but the point is Anakin did it better. Impossible to quantify how much Yoda is holding back and if he even is holding back it's hard to say, could just be one of those situations where he's giving it his all but he'll priortise a disarming blow if possible.

Point is Anakin doing it better is also impossible to measure given Yoda was almost certainly holding back.

In any case that wasnt Vader. It was a Peak moment for Anakin. Theres no real evidence that Vader > Peak Anakin tbh. Just that Rebels Vader > ROTS Vader.

Anakin blatantly does better. To what extent Yoda is holding back and if he is even holding back is again dubious. Anakin's power comes from the dark side, it's not some random buff. To add on Anakin was completely pounding Dooku and was able to disarm him w/o killing him, if Yoda could've done that he would've.

Why are ROTS Anakin feats being used to argue for ROTJ suited Vader?

Originally posted by Scizard
if Yoda could've done that he would've.

You mean just like Yoda kept attacking Dooku with the Force? Yeah, sure.

Its silly to ignore character motives and feelings and just blindly power scale in that way.

Dooku is no match for either Prime Vader or Yoda. But that in itself does not make them equals.

Originally posted by Trocity
Why are ROTS Anakin feats being used to argue for ROTJ suited Vader?

Some head canon power scaling.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
You mean just like Yoda kept attacking Dooku with the Force? Yeah, sure.

Its silly to ignore character motives and feelings and just blindly power scale in that way.

Dooku is no match for either Vader or Yoda. But that in itself does not make them equals.

You're still yet to provide any evidence for these feelings 😐

Originally posted by Scizard
You're still yet to provide any evidence for these feelings 😐

I already have if you actually bothered reading.

You however are yet to prove that any version of Vader > Peak Anakin.

"Peak" Anakin beat Dooku by tapping into the dark side for a few moments.

Vader (suited) is said to be more connected to the dark side than ever, and nothing in new canon says his power was diminished after ROTS. There is also the quote about Vader being Sidious's most powerful apprentice by light years.

So prime Vader would stomp Dooku much easier then Anakin did.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I already have if you actually bothered reading.

You however are yet to prove that any version of Vader > Peak Anakin.

Pretty sure I already said. Anakin's power in the Dooku fight comes from the dark side. Anakin feels his power growing even more as confirmed on the sw.com website as he taps into the dark side, and by the time of mustafar he's so connected to the dark side to the point he has Sith eyes.

In summary it's the dark side fuelling his strength, nothing suggests anything more than that.

Now Vader is stated to be at the height of his powers during ANH meaning he's more powerful than all of his previous incarnations which includes KFV/MFV which are atleast at the level of a dark side amped Anakin.

Can you show the evidence for Yoda holding back and to what degree he's holding back? I probably missed it.