Originally posted by GenghisJuan
When did he almost destroy reality? Against the Scrier and the Other? I wouldn't say it's consistent tbh. Galaxy shaking isn't very impressive.
Wait, what showing here are you using for these 2 to beat Galactus? The Prime recent showing is up on the air. Prime was reading his fight against the BHL from a comic. We don't even know if what was shown is legit, especially with Wonder Woman being the one to defeat him. Explain, please.
Originally posted by carver9No he can't. He would be killed or koed before he could blink. Galactus has trouble hitting Surfer when Surfer is not even moving as fast as light. If you disagree then kindly show us Galactus top speed, reaction feats.
He operates on a higher level, AND he could drain both of them.
"Wait, what showing here are you using for these 2 to beat Galactus? The Prime recent showing is up on the air. Prime was reading his fight against the BHL from a comic. We don't even know if what was shown is legit, especially with Wonder Woman being the one to defeat him. Explain, please."
I'll just quote my previous comment:
"Average Galactus (1-2 planets):
-Busted 3 Solar Systems and continued into the Galaxy
-Busted multiple Galaxies vs Tyrant
-Has been treated as an overtime Universe Buster
-Could lifewipe 2 Universes
-Takes on Odin, Mephisto, Agamotto, etc.
I'd say he's in the Multi-Galaxy to Low Universal tier.
Note: Recently an amped Galactus was stomped by a Universe buster, so take that as you will and he could be lower.
OWAW Sundipped Superman:
-Pushed a Planet moving at FTL Speeds
-Briefly survived being attacked by 2 Big Bangs
-Much more powerful than the Superman who took out multiple Probes
I'd say he could be anywhere from Large Planet to Multi-Galaxy+ lmfao.
Superman Prime:
-Retconned realities
-Took on hordes of heroes
-Fought Monarch when he had the Guardian Amp
-Survived a Universal explosion (iirc?)
With these, I'd say he's Multi-Galaxy to Universal.
So... team takes it."
I purposefully didn't use his recent feats.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Defeated....Batman who laughs with DrManhattans power
They make a point to put emphasis on 3 things:
1. his punches revert the dark earths the villains theyre fighting back to "good" Earths
2. When he first hits BWL he see's his ideal Earth
3. He's using BWL's energy against him
He definitely DID NOT defeat Butt**** Who Limps, he just destroyed the 52 bad Earths and reverted back to his good Earth as if he never left for COIE
Originally posted by GenghisJuan
"Average Galactus."
Average Galactus (1-2 planets):
-Busted 3 Solar Systems and continued into the Galaxy
It was just three solar systems.
-Busted multiple Galaxies vs Tyrant
-Has been treated as an overtime Universe Buster
-Could lifewipe 2 Universes
-Takes on Odin, Mephisto, Agamotto, etc.
I'd say he's in the Multi-Galaxy to Low Universal tier.
Note: Recently an amped Galactus was stomped by a Universe buster, so take that as you will and he could be lower.
Galactus has never destroyed a galaxy.
OWAW Sundipped Superman:
-Pushed a Planet moving at FTL Speeds
-Briefly survived being attacked by 2 Big Bangs
-Much more powerful than the Superman who took out multiple Probes
I'd say he could be anywhere from Large Planet to Multi-Galaxy+ lmfao.Superman Prime:
-Retconned realities
-Took on hordes of heroes
-Fought Monarch when he had the Guardian Amp
-Survived a Universal explosion (iirc?)
With these, I'd say he's Multi-Galaxy to Universal.So... team takes it. With recent feats, SBP soloes easily.
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Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
They make a point to put emphasis on 3 things:
1. his punches revert the dark earths the villains theyre fighting back to "good" Earths
2. When he first hits BWL he see's his ideal Earth
3. He's using BWL's energy against him
He definitely DID NOT defeat Butt**** Who Limps, he just destroyed the 52 bad Earths and reverted back to his good Earth as if he never left for COIE
Originally posted by carver9
Wait, what showing here are you using for these 2 to beat Galactus? The Prime recent showing is up on the air. Prime was reading his fight against the BHL from a comic. We don't even know if what was shown is legit, especially with Wonder Woman being the one to defeat him. Explain, please.
Originally posted by abhilegend
It was just three solar systems.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Just a statement from Thanos with no way to prove it.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope. Read Annihilation again.
Glad you liked the Superman scaling btw.
Originally posted by GenghisJuan
Gotta disagree here:
"And does not slow down"
https://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/Annihilation6-009.jpg
"Swept the Galaxy clean"
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-70ed77577c1da6fbde994654c6ee336c
Originally posted by abhilegend
[B]Myth of Galactus destroying a galaxy based on this scan from Thanos Imperative.Galaxy was swept clean of the annihilation wave, not destroyed entirely.
You can see the position where Galactus was on the first scan.
Galactus was on the edge of kree galaxy, obviously none of the kree galaxy was destroyed. Because those conquered worlds were ceded to centurions after the war.
So, what did Galactus actually destroy? A galaxy? No chance.
Moreover this is the size of kree empire, 1000 worlds.
Handbook also says Galactus laid waste to star systems, not galaxy.
Any reason that Thanos is an unreliable narrator?
Thanos wasn't there to see the fight, he was just imagining it.
When he showed up in 60s Thor comics, he was treated as a Universal threat, albeit definitely nowhere near a one-shotter:
"The Universe is still in grave peril"
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11113/111137597/7195554-rco002.jpg
"Can cause the Universe itself to crumble"
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749400140359532584/791862945717813258/b473dd5e49de782f4cf969855fea8e18.png
"While a Universe doth lie at stake"
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CoV4Iz8Rp74/VnpeW4jZLlI/AAAAAAAAPsA/16IqWnAn3Ko/s1600-Ic42/RCO013.jpg
Silver age Galactus doesn't has any feat on that level.
Eh wdym? That it was built up energy and not regular Galactus? I also clarified it's a life-wipe only.
Glad you liked the Superman scaling btw. [/B]
Galactus was akin to throwing a match into gasoline in Annihilation. He certainly wasn't universal.
I don't remember saying he busted the whole Galaxy. Here's what I've been saying:
"Busted 3 Solar Systems and continued into the Galaxy"
I said he continued through the Galaxy, not that he destroyed the whole thing^
When I said:
"Gotta disagree here:"
That was referring to:
"It was just three solar systems."
So again, my disagreement was just that it was only 3 Solar Systems, not that it was the entire Galaxy.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Thanos wasn't there to see the fight, he was just imagining it.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Silver age Galactus doesn't has any feat on that level.
"-Has been treated as an overtime Universe Buster"
And your response was "Nope."
So... whether or not he had feats to back it up at the time, he was still treated as such, which you denied before.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Galactus was akin to throwing a match into gasoline in Annihilation. He certainly wasn't universal.
Originally posted by GenghisJuan
I don't remember saying he busted the whole Galaxy. Here's what I've been saying:
"Busted 3 Solar Systems and continued into the Galaxy"
I said he continued through the Galaxy, not that he destroyed the whole thing^When I said:
"Gotta disagree here:"
That was referring to:
"It was just three solar systems."
So again, my disagreement was just that it was only 3 Solar Systems, not that it was the entire Galaxy.
Good.
I feel like this is discrediting Thanos' knowledge a lot. Had he only been told stories like here, I'd get it:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749400140359532584/792038217871917086/RCO025.png
But, he saw the full recording of their battle:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749400140359532584/792038401209532446/RCO050_w.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749400140359532584/792038442129162251/RCO051.png
The recording never shows galaxies being destroyed. It was purely conjecture from Thanos.
3 things:
1. He doesn't need to specifically, because Marvel never rebooted and he's the same Galactus.
Even modern Galactus has never destroyed a universe.
2. If it's stated so many times, I have a feeling it's legit.
3. Is it just me or is this moving the goalpost a bit? Here's my original claim:"-Has been treated as an overtime Universe Buster"
And your response was "Nope."
So... whether or not he had feats to back it up at the time, he was still treated as such, which you denied before.
For him to be considered a universe buster, he has to destroy a universe. He hasn't. He hasn't even destroyed a galaxy on panel or otherwise.
Fair enough, I'll agree here.Good.
Originally posted by abhilegend
The recording never shows galaxies being destroyed. It was purely conjecture from Thanos.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Even modern Galactus has never destroyed a universe.For him to be considered a universe buster, he has to destroy a universe. He hasn't. He hasn't even destroyed a galaxy on panel or otherwise.
Also, this is just from memory, but didn't he destroy a Universe while mind-controlled or something? Anyways, it's late asf for me, so I'll respond again tomorrow.
