Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Cool.As I said before, keeping my powder dry, so not saying too much - but people are really not imaginative enough.
Wait, you're going to imagine Batman beating a Celestial stomping, Primordian Elder God slaying creature that was ancient before Galactus was ever born all by himself? Reed Richards, Black Panther, Tony Stark,and Peter Parker have no idea where to begin, while it is Dylan (Eddies son) that may be able to turn the tide due to his unique abilities. Abilities that Batman does not possess.
Cryofoam, shock nades, and gas pellets are not going to work. This is not Bane. Even Kang a time traveling super strategic genius is clueless. Knull only has to hit Batman once, or get a tiny drop of symbiote on his skin to find himself in deep water. I better go back and read the OP in case I missed something.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You mean a spite match against you, you mean.It's hilarious how you think there is no possible way Batman with 1 year of prep can ever win against Knull. You can let me educate you once more.
Yes, that is something that I'll certainly be paying attention to. There are times when no amount of time will help win a war. This is like a battle between a guy on a camel with a sling shot vs a fleet of F-16 fighter jets.
Originally posted by Stoic
Wait, you're going to imagine Batman beating a Celestial stomping, Primordian Elder God slaying creature that was ancient before Galactus was ever born all by himself? Reed Richards, Black Panther, Tony Stark,and Peter Parker have no idea where to begin, while it is Dylan (Eddies son) that may be able to turn the tide due to his unique abilities. Abilities that Batman does not possess.Cryofoam, shock nades, and gas pellets are not going to work. This is not Bane. Even Kang a time traveling super strategic genius is clueless. Knull only has to hit Batman once, or get a tiny drop of symbiote on his skin to find himself in deep water. I better go back and read the OP in case I missed something.
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Also, people are REALLY not thinking big enough. Foam?? Gas?? This isn't Cap America he is fighting, lmao.
Anyway, just a small snippet of what may be:
Not saying this IS what I would be using, but just so people understand, they are thinking way WAY too small.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilif you think it’s spite, then it should give you a massive advantage herei. You gotta be retarded if you can’t take this challenge an go after your first win.
Everybody on the forum including stoic knows it’s a spite match besides you. I’ll bz you and send you packing for a few months on a fair ground anyday, my pms are open whenever you wanna get smacked, until then I don’t do spite matches period
Originally posted by Stoicthose aren’t in a forum setting. That’s a comic, they need to sell them. How many will they sell if reed finds an anti knull gun in his closet?
Wait, you're going to imagine Batman beating a Celestial stomping, Primordian Elder God slaying creature that was ancient before Galactus was ever born all by himself? Reed Richards, Black Panther, Tony Stark,and Peter Parker have no idea where to begin, while it is Dylan (Eddies son) that may be able to turn the tide due to his unique abilities. Abilities that Batman does not possess.Cryofoam, shock nades, and gas pellets are not going to work. This is not Bane. Even Kang a time traveling super strategic genius is clueless. Knull only has to hit Batman once, or get a tiny drop of symbiote on his skin to find himself in deep water. I better go back and read the OP in case I missed something.
Someone should take saint up if they feel this condmfident. I’m hoping it’s Trollberto.
Originally posted by Stoic
Yes, that is something that I'll certainly be paying attention to. There are times when no amount of time will help win a war. This is like a battle between a guy on a camel with a sling shot vs a fleet of F-16 fighter jets.
Indeed.
Yet, he seems unwilling to take on poor little ole me.
It's not who you debate with, but HOW you debate with them, that wins BZs.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
👆Also, people are REALLY not thinking big enough. Foam?? Gas?? This isn't Cap America he is fighting, lmao.
Anyway, just a small snippet of what may be:
Not saying this IS what I would be using, but just so people understand, they are thinking way WAY too small.
Just realized, these three scans are from the past twoish years alone lmao, let alone the entirety of his (Post) Crisis history.
Let alone the ENTIRETY of his history.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Just realized, these three scans are from the past twoish years alone lmao, let alone the entirety of his (Post) Crisis history.
Let alone the ENTIRETY of his history.
None of those three things you've posted would matter against Knull. Doctor Doom has time machines and nukes, which can destroy planets in his basement. And you don't see him taking care of business with a little bit of prep-time. Neither does Doctor Strange, who has outsmarted every god and their mom.
What you're doing right now is the same as if I challenged you to a fight between Iron Man with 1 day of prep and the Presence:
"Ey yo, check this out, bro! Iron Man goes to Doctor Strange and gets himself a sweet, sweet super speed amp. And then he goes to Mister Fantastic, borrows the Ultimate Nullifier and punches the Presence in the dick! And since the Presence doesn't have super speed, he'll never see it coming. Get wrecked, bro. See you in 6 months! I have spoken and this is the way, you little troll biatch!"
You and the other DC fanboys are underselling Knull to a painful degree purely based on semantics. Some of the fanboys believe that Flash beats Knull. It's like... wat? Simply being fast is not enough to beat a being like Knull. That guy has killed Celestials. They're all beyond such simple concepts like speed. You see them fight regularly, but this is what actually goes on behind the scenes:
https://i.imgur.com/GBmK09B.png
It's just that it doesn't make sense to focus on these aspects in absolutely every single comic you write and draw. Fact is that Knull is pretty damn high up on the food chain. And Batman having the powers of a Kryptonian would do nothing for him. Knull killing the unkillable Sentry should speak volumes for his power level. And I'm not merely talking about ripping him apart. Sentry has been killed like that before. But now he doesn't seem to be able to regenerate any longer, since his abilities have been seemingly overwritten by a more powerful entity.
Originally posted by Enzeru
None of those three things you've posted would matter against Knull. Doctor Doom has time machines and nukes, which can destroy planets in his basement. And you don't see him taking care of business with a little bit of prep-time. Neither does Doctor Strange, who has outsmarted every god and their mom.What you're doing right now is the same as if I challenged you to a fight between Iron Man with 1 day of prep and the Presence:
"Ey yo, check this out, bro! Iron Man goes to Doctor Strange and gets himself a sweet, sweet super speed amp. And then he goes to Mister Fantastic, borrows the Ultimate Nullifier and punches the Presence in the dick! And since the Presence doesn't have super speed, he'll never see it coming. Get wrecked, bro. See you in 6 months! I have spoken and this is the way, you little troll biatch!"You and the other DC fanboys are underselling Knull to a painful degree purely based on semantics. Some of the fanboys believe that Flash beats Knull. It's like... wat? Simply being fast is not enough to beat a being like Knull. That guy has killed Celestials. They're all beyond such simple concepts like speed. You see them fight regularly, but this is what actually goes on behind the scenes:
https://i.imgur.com/GBmK09B.pngIt's just that it doesn't make sense to focus on these aspects in absolutely every single comic you write and draw. Fact is that Knull is pretty damn high up on the food chain. And Batman having the powers of a Kryptonian would do nothing for him. Knull killing the unkillable Sentry should speak volumes for his power level. And I'm not merely talking about ripping him apart. Sentry has been killed like that before. But now he doesn't seem to be able to regenerate any longer, since his abilities have been seemingly overwritten by a more powerful entity.
Which is why I said I wasn't necessarily using them.
I posted them to remind people it's not just smoke grenades and gas pellets in Batman's arsenal.
But thanks for the essay
Originally posted by Enzeru
None of those three things you've posted would matter against Knull. Doctor Doom has time machines and nukes, which can destroy planets in his basement. And you don't see him taking care of business with a little bit of prep-time. Neither does Doctor Strange, who has outsmarted every god and their mom.What you're doing right now is the same as if I challenged you to a fight between Iron Man with 1 day of prep and the Presence:
"Ey yo, check this out, bro! Iron Man goes to Doctor Strange and gets himself a sweet, sweet super speed amp. And then he goes to Mister Fantastic, borrows the Ultimate Nullifier and punches the Presence in the dick! And since the Presence doesn't have super speed, he'll never see it coming. Get wrecked, bro. See you in 6 months! I have spoken and this is the way, you little troll biatch!"You and the other DC fanboys are underselling Knull to a painful degree purely based on semantics. Some of the fanboys believe that Flash beats Knull. It's like... wat? Simply being fast is not enough to beat a being like Knull. That guy has killed Celestials. They're all beyond such simple concepts like speed. You see them fight regularly, but this is what actually goes on behind the scenes:
https://i.imgur.com/GBmK09B.pngIt's just that it doesn't make sense to focus on these aspects in absolutely every single comic you write and draw. Fact is that Knull is pretty damn high up on the food chain. And Batman having the powers of a Kryptonian would do nothing for him. Knull killing the unkillable Sentry should speak volumes for his power level. And I'm not merely talking about ripping him apart. Sentry has been killed like that before. But now he doesn't seem to be able to regenerate any longer, since his abilities have been seemingly overwritten by a more powerful entity.
I think you misunderstood the point of my scans.
Originally posted by Stoic
Cryofoam, shock nades, and gas pellets are not going to work. This is not Bane.
This is the point I was addressing. Really, imagine it is your most hated rival on the forums, abhi, making these points - would you not want to reply to them?
Calling me a DC fanboy is pretty rich, though. I have done nothing but been polite to you, even going as far as to seek your knowledge out actively. But hey, fly off the handle if you want, lol.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85I think you misunderstood the point of my scans.
I understood them. I was just having something else in mind, when I wrote my reply. More on that below.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85This is the point I was addressing. Really, imagine it is your most hated rival on the forums, abhi, making these points - would you not want to reply to them?
A rival usually challenges you: Goku VS Vegeta, Dante VS Vergil, Stipe Miocic VS Daniel Cormier, Ash Ketchum VS Gary Oak.
I barely acknowledge that dummies existence.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Calling me a DC fanboy is pretty rich, though. I have done nothing but been polite to you, even going as far as to seek your knowledge out actively. But hey, fly off the handle if you want, lol.
Nah man, I apologize. I don't consider you a DC fanboy. I consider you one of the actually cool people around here, who try to have some serious discussions about comics.
I was more annoyed by your attempt to make a thing out of Batman beating someone like Knull. And I'm not even saying that Batman can't do that. Batman probably can beat someone like Knull thanks to all the random stuff writers have come up with over the decades.
I just think that's the worst possible way to a) write comics and b) especially argue comic book fights. Because at that point you're throwing around Deus Ex Machinas. You're being that annoying kid on the playground, whose action figure develops anti-your-action-figure-blasts, so that he wins.
Prep is horrible. With prep John Constantine can set up seals, which prevent God from entering rooms. With prep it doesn't even matter, who participates in a fight. Take Batman out, put my favorite DC boy Red Hood in, give him an Ultimate Nullifier mini-gun and he'll beat everyone too. It's boring.
Originally posted by Enzeru
I understood them. I was just having something else in mind, when I wrote my reply. More on that below.A rival usually challenges you: Goku VS Vegeta, Dante VS Vergil, Stipe Miocic VS Daniel Cormier, Ash Ketchum VS Gary Oak.
I barely acknowledge that dummies existence.Nah man, I apologize. I don't consider you a DC fanboy. I consider you one of the actually cool people around here, who try to have some serious discussions about comics.
I was more annoyed by your attempt to make a thing out of Batman beating someone like Knull. And I'm not even saying that Batman can't do that. Batman probably can beat someone like Knull thanks to all the random stuff writers have come up with over the decades.
I just think that's the worst possible way to a) write comics and b) especially argue comic book fights. Because at that point you're throwing around Deus Ex Machinas. You're being that annoying kid on the playground, whose action figure develops anti-your-action-figure-blasts, so that he wins.
Prep is horrible. With prep John Constantine can set up seals, which prevent God from entering rooms. With prep it doesn't even matter, who participates in a fight. Take Batman out, put my favorite DC boy Red Hood in, give him an Ultimate Nullifier mini-gun and he'll beat everyone too. It's boring.
Saint likes to use Bats with prep alot, he'll hate it if somebody decides to use Bruce with prep against him in a bz
