Originally posted by truejedi
What is United States culture, out of curiosity? I've lived here all my life, and I'm not sure what we could really consider united States culture. Great melting pot indeed.
That is why his entire objection is retarded. Cultures are not monolithic. A particular culture may be good in one area, and bad in another. Or might be measured on a continuum from bad to good across various human rights dimensions. Hell, we have wildly divergent attitudes in different geographic regions in this country. This is just more simple, black and white thinking from underdeveloped conservative minds.
But like, leaving aside some general limits to morality and where it comes from, I feel like most of us agree that the culture the nazis built was bad, and that there are many cultures that are better than that. I agree that things are nuanced, and that these concepts can and are often misused, but I personally don't think we should throw the baby out with the bathwater, even as I appreciate a lot of the work that post-modernists have done in challenging ideologies and simplistic narratives.
Originally posted by ArtolI don't know who I'm talking to half of the time. It's so much less dynamic this way. Wish I had some down time, but apparently God is always watching you.
Or to put it in terms of the OP, unreflected ethnocentrism is bad, but sometimes some of the things "your own group" does is just better than what another group does...
Originally posted by Neon1234You could grow a pair of testicles and try to talk to her about it after class. Ask her why she believes all cultures are equal, etc. That's what I did when I was in college, I even got into an argument with my comp professor in front of the class on whether or not Lolita is pre-pederasty or not (it's not).
Thank you Artol for your post.I have the same Professor for Communications 2 starting Jan 11th.
She might bring it up again or not.
I'm not sure if I'll bring it up.
Originally posted by Neon1234
So what I've learnt from this thread, is that Whirly doesn't realize some cultures are superior to others.I'm sure he thinks the Western world is horrible and oppressive.
Do you think that the "western world" being superior to some (or even all) other cultures in the world means that the "western world" then can not be horrible and oppressive?
Originally posted by NemeBroYouTube video
Do you think that the "western world" being superior to some (or even all) other cultures in the world means that the "western world" then can not be horrible and oppressive?
Originally posted by NemeBro
You could grow a pair of testicles and try to talk to her about it after class. Ask her why she believes all cultures are equal, etc. That's what I did when I was in college, I even got into an argument with my comp professor in front of the class on whether or not Lolita is pre-pederasty or not (it's not).
I haven't read Lolita nor seen the movie, but isn't it about a middle aged academic obsessing with a 12 year old girl? Sounds pretty paedobear to me..
Originally posted by ArtolNazi Germany is I think a case where the negative aspects of the culture are so hugely detrimental to the livelihoods of enough people that they outweigh any of the positive aspects, if any exist (tbh their perspective on race pretty much dominates all casual discussion of them and I haven't research the culture of Germany at the time enough to know if there were any positives).
But like, leaving aside some general limits to morality and where it comes from, I feel like most of us agree that the culture the nazis built was bad, and that there are many cultures that are better than that. I agree that things are nuanced, and that these concepts can and are often misused, but I personally don't think we should throw the baby out with the bathwater, even as I appreciate a lot of the work that post-modernists have done in challenging ideologies and simplistic narratives.
Adam is definitely right in that "cultures" are not monolithic and they can carry both positive and negative aspects. Iran's treatment of homosexuals is deplorable, but their treatment of transgendered people (going off memory I might be mistaken) is actually by comparison much more accepting, for example.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Nazi Germany is I think a case where the negative aspects of the culture are so hugely detrimental to the livelihoods of enough people that they outweigh any of the positive aspects, if any exist (tbh their perspective on race pretty much dominates all casual discussion of them and I haven't research the culture of Germany at the time enough to know if there were any positives).Adam is definitely right in that "cultures" are not monolithic and they can carry both positive and negative aspects. Iran's treatment of homosexuals is deplorable, but their treatment of transgendered people (going off memory I might be mistaken) is actually by comparison much more accepting, for example.
Interesting.
Isn't Iran second behind Thailand for transition surgery? Is transgenderism embraced because its seen as a cash cow industry?
Poor Trump will never learn