Originally posted by Robtard
I can't see Pence doing it, even if he actually wanted to now and had at least 8 cabinet members backing him up, he knows that if he did it, he'd have to look over his shoulder for the rest of his life because of unhinged Trumpers looking for revenge.
He's going to have to do that anyway, what with Trump blasting him for defying his 'wishes.'
Originally posted by Robtard
I can't see Pence doing it, even if he actually wanted to now and had at least 8 cabinet members backing him up, he knows that if he did it, he'd have to look over his shoulder for the rest of his life because of unhinged Trumpers looking for revenge.
Tbph, he's probably going to have to be doing that anyway, Trumpers are seething at both the DNC and the GOP over Trump losing.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Can it be invoked?
Can it? Yes. Should it? No. If Pence becomes president, he can pardon Trump. It would be better to file articles of impeachment again. Not because there is a realistic change of removing him, but because his executive power is effectively frozen while the impeachment is going on. So it stops him from doing any more damage.
Originally posted by Adam_PoEThis article is really good.
Can it? Yes. Should it? No. If Pence becomes president, he can pardon Trump. It would be better to file articles of impeachment again. Not because there is a realistic change of removing him, but because his executive power is effectively frozen while the impeachment is going on. So it stops him from doing any more damage.
“There’s no question the president formed the mob, the president incited the mob, the president addressed the mob. He lit the flame,” said Elizabeth Cheney, the No3 House Republican.
Trump should be impeached, convicted and removed from office – immediately.
To let the clock run out on his presidency and allow Trump to seek the office again would signal that attempted coups are part of the American system. If Senate Republicans can install a new supreme court justice in eight days, Trump can be removed from office within 12.
He should then be arrested and tried for inciting violence and sedition – along with Donald Trump Jr and Rudy “trial-by-combat” Giuliani.
Those who attacked the Capitol should also be prosecuted. They have no first amendment right to try to overthrow the US government.
Trump’s accomplices on Capitol Hill, most notably the Texas senator Ted Cruz and Missouri senator Josh Hawley, should be forced to resign.
Knowing Trump’s allegations of voting fraud were false, Cruz and Hawley led the move to exclude Biden electors – even after the storming of the Capitol – thereby lending Trump’s claims credibility.
The United States constitution says “no Person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress” who “shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against” the constitution, “or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof”.
Both Cruz and Hawley are eyeing runs for the presidency in 2024. They should be barred from running.
Other abettors are trying to distance themselves, but their conversions come too late.
Senator Lindsey Graham now says Trump must “understand that his actions were the problem, not the solution”, and criticizes the White House for making “accusations that cannot be proven”.
Graham was one of Trump’s key attack dogs, even bullying state election officials to change voting tallies. If Graham is not forced to resign, he should at least be censured and stripped of his ranking membership on the Senate judiciary committee.
The Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, and Vice-President Michael Pence finally broke with Trump, but only after remaining mute as Trump lied and bullied his way through the last eight weeks, thereby signaling agreement with his preposterous claims.
McConnell should also resign or be censured and stripped of committee assignments. Pence should be barred from public office.
Some officials have resigned in response to the attempted coup. The transportation secretary, Elaine Chao, said it was “entirely avoidable” and the education secretary, Betsy DeVos, told Trump there was “no mistake the impact your rhetoric had”. Other Trumpers are reportedly jumping ship too.
Yet before Wednesday most of them defended Trump’s antics, lavished him with praise and did his dirty work. Their complicity should forever haunt their reputations and consciences.
Other accessories are Jack Dorsey, chief executive of Twitter, Mark Zuckerberg, of Facebook, and Sundar Pichai of Alphabet, YouTube’s parent company.
For four years, Twitter, Facebook and YouTube have functioned as Trump’s megaphones, amplifying his every lie and rant. When pressured to remove Trump’s fabrications about the election, they labeled them “disputed”.
Twitter has now permanently suspended Trump, preventing him from sending messages to his more than 88 million followers “due to the risk of further incitement for violence”. Facebook has banned him indefinitely. YouTube should as well.
But why did it take an attempted coup for them to act?
Originally posted by Lestov16
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-from this thread
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