Originally posted by Darth Thor
You say that as if Trump was anti-war?
Pace yourself, it’s only day one of no Trump; Trumpers are still high on their copium.
As for Biden, he better not get us into a war. Good thing, he seemingly wants to open negotiations with Iran, hopefully they’re willing to come back to the table after Trump’s disastrous breaking of the US-Iran deal.
I don't think Trump was generally opposed to war, I am glad he was less hawkish than many of his advisors and we didn't end up with another war, though.
I hope that Biden won't start another war, I feel like the danger of war with Iran has gone down under a Biden administration, but there may be others that happen.
I do think we have to look at wars on a case by case bases though, there's clearly worse and better (not necessarily good) wars the US is involved in. Like the Bush Jr. war in Iraq and the support of the war in Yemen are monstrous. The wars against ISIS seem to be easier to justify imo.
Originally posted by Robtard
Pace yourself, it’s only day one of no Trump; Trumpers are still high on their copium.As for Biden, he better not get us into a war. Good thing, he seemingly wants to open negotiations with Iran, hopefully they’re willing to come back to the table after Trump’s disastrous breaking of the US-Iran deal.
making peace with iran will be difficult since trump undid the nuclear treaty, and then assassinated then iranian general in baghdad, when it became clear that his first attempt to provoke a war had failed
Depends what the US is offering, just going back to the deal from 4 years ago seems unfair, considering that the US broke its commitment, while Iran didn't.
As for Soleimani, not sure how much impact that will have, Iran is pretty used to their functionaries being assassinated, mainly by Israel and the US, and like the CIA says they are a reasonable actor, so if it would be beneficial to their country they would likely overlook that particular situation.
Originally posted by RobtardI know you're high on Republican tears rn, but you might want to re-evaluate what a 'Trumper' is
Pace yourself, it’s only day one of no Trump; Trumpers are still high on their copium.As for Biden, he better not get us into a war. Good thing, he seemingly wants to open negotiations with Iran, hopefully they’re willing to come back to the table after Trump’s disastrous breaking of the US-Iran deal.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
making peace with iran will be difficult since trump undid the nuclear treaty, and then assassinated then iranian general in baghdad, when it became clear that his first attempt to provoke a war had failed
Since Iran got to keep their frozen assets the US used as leverage to make the deal after Trump broke the deal, Iran has even less incentive to agree to another no-nuke agreement. Biden has a Herculean task ahead of him here. I have my doubts.
Originally posted by ArtolThe wars against ISIS are directly caused by the war in Iraq. It leads back to the first Gulf war, and even earlier, with the support for the Iranian revolution. But the Iraq war is really where it started.
I don't think Trump was generally opposed to war, I am glad he was less hawkish than many of his advisors and we didn't end up with another war, though.I hope that Biden won't start another war, I feel like the danger of war with Iran has gone down under a Biden administration, but there may be others that happen.
I do think we have to look at wars on a case by case bases though, there's clearly worse and better (not necessarily good) wars the US is involved in. Like the Bush Jr. war in Iraq and the support of the war in Yemen are monstrous. The wars against ISIS seem to be easier to justify imo.
Funny how direct opposition to war in the Middle East is being associated with Trump now, lol.