Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The bricks (your Grundys, Apollos etc) would have a hard fight and most of them would NOT beat Hulk going h2h. At best, if they had speed and with no BFR, they could avoid his blows and hope for a stalemate.The telepaths (Shadow Kings, Prof Xs) would slaughter him.
The exotics (Proxima Midnights, Magnetos) would kill him.
Lol. I love when you quote yourself. Anyway I’m not sure the telepaths would have it so easy. There is def some support that suggests otherwise. It’s possible for for but I wouldn’t say automatic. And you think mags would kill hulk? Idk about that. A case could be made for sure, but I could see a sufficiently po’d hulk running a train on mags.
that designation always bothered me a little. does that imply he's only limited to that form and therefore cannot exceed it? so he can reach JUST enough anger to not go wb? if so, that neuters hulk. still, even with that limit, i think green scar would be very difficult for mags to take out. he could try and simply lift him, but i don't think that would work for very long. he could bfr if that's an option, but in a ring i don't know that would work either. i can think of a couple other things--mags can get very exotic that MIGHT work.
what would you have him do?
Originally posted by leonidas
that designation always bothered me a little. does that imply he's only limited to that form and therefore cannot exceed it? so he can reach JUST enough anger to not go wb? if so, that neuters hulk. still, even with that limit, i think green scar would be very difficult for mags to take out. he could try and simply lift him, but i don't think that would work for very long. he could bfr if that's an option, but in a ring i don't know that would work either. i can think of a couple other things--mags can get very exotic that MIGHT work.what would you have him do?
BZ me and find out!!! sneer
But it'll probably be along the lines of Phildo's WWH BZ:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f105/t653920.html
Him being limited to being just under WB...surely isn't THAT much of a handicap?? I mean, if we were to have this debate before Heart of the Monster or before WWH #5 (or whenever it was that he first threatened to break the world), are you saying it would have been an automatic win for the Low Herald tier vs Hulk?
Originally posted by leonidas
lol yeah, i guess if we're strictly limited to that version of hulk. my original point wasn't focused on just a specific version--i didn't see the op and was just thinking of the hulk in general.
Phildo's BZ had every single version of Hulk there. It was Hulk in general, just not WBH.
Savage, Prof, Fixit etc were all fair game.
I meant to say, it was WWh but he could access all the feats all other Hulks had. The OP that I wrote clearly states this.
So if Fixit had a feat where he flat out resists Mags, Damborg could use it.
Like I said, its moot. Magneto always carries metal on him so Hulk can be completely naked, it doesn't affect Magneto messing his blood up.
hmm, i'm not so sure about that. hulk's blood is nothing like a normal person's blood. it might not be unreasonable to think his blood doesn't even have iron, given some of its properties. i mean its main job is in red blood cell creation. hulk's blood isn't even red... given it's radioactive nature, on top of its healing properties and even...life giving nature, i'm not sure we can simply assume his blood is the same as ours. add to that the illogical feats he's performed and... shrug
there might be enough info and examples to at least cause doubt in a judges mind. it's not an avenue borg pursued at all, but it's an avenue that MAY have worked.
or not. lol
Originally posted by leonidas
hmm, i'm not so sure about that. hulk's blood is nothing like a normal person's blood. it might not be unreasonable to think his blood doesn't even have iron, given some of its properties. i mean its main job is in red blood cell creation. hulk's blood isn't even red... given it's radioactive nature, on top of its healing properties and even...life giving nature, i'm not sure we can simply assume his blood is the same as ours. add to that the illogical feats he's performed and... shrugthere might be enough info and examples to at least cause doubt in a judges mind. it's not an avenue borg pursued at all, but it's an avenue that MAY have worked.
or not. lol
You're not sure on what?
That the versions of Hulk don't matter? That Mags won't be able to affect the RADIOACTIVE blood? That he can't affect green blood (like he did with...She-Hulk)?
The first point was what we were discussing lol. Now you've moved on to a separate issue 😛
Originally posted by leonidas
oh yeah, she did control the blood in she-hulk, didn't he. forgot about that. that does weaken the argument against blood control considerably. lol still, i'd love to see him try it on hulk...
Lol in Phildo's BZ, Mags lifts and throws Hulk (THE Hulk) 😛
Looks like Magneto (who isn't in the Low Herald tier, although Ultimate Mags is) can defeat Hulk handily hehe.