Originally posted by leonidasI think she is too fast [lol....I know] and would wrap her lasso around him and then [under most portrayals] he wouldn't be 'allowed' to do anything. Her lassoing Phantom Strange was essentially a 'fuk it, it can work on anybody'.
could apoc just shift his form out of the rope do you think?
Funny thing -- I wanted to have a battlezone a year ago or so with Damborg and I was working on the Apocalypse respect thread, so I figured I'd give him some respect by putting him against Wonder Woman. I might as well say this now -- but one of the main tactics was teleporting the lasso/sword away from her [which Apoc can do] leaving her essentially just with bracelets [and maybe remove even those]. Then I'd have abused teleportation and IKaris'd her at some point with impalement. I just had to teleport once behind her, grab, and she wouldn't be able to get out [since I peg her around Thor, and he had a really hard time with Apoc's physicality]. Or I'd teleport her in Apocalypse's grasp. Apoc's teleportation is underused in threads. All of this assumes that he'd be able to do all of those while she's attacking/a moving target, but yeah.
yeah i can see that. in this case, i don't think she needs to go all forum ww--the speed differential here would be just too great and i agree in general she'd be too fast for him.
i think if we argued general portrayal, then your plan would work for sure. as typically shown, i'd take apoc over diana. she has higher highs though, and forum full capacity he couldn't beat her. but again, that's why i hate full capacity lol it leads to answers like 'speed' instead of leading to fun discussion. in a comic this would be a VERY cool battle and that would have been an awesome bz to read.